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>the manner in which our laws are written needs to be revisited altogether (for the better, of course) in addition to pushing back against stricter (and even more poorly written) editions to those laws. This is the biggest thing IMO. Spirit of the law vs letter of the law. I would much rather have spirit, although that empowers judges in a way that can be annoying and painful to deal with due to their ideological slants (see recent examples). I don't support CSAM, and I think it would be better if porno was debanked for the sake of humanity. I also recognize that attempts to do this would be like cutting off the head of a hydra with legal challenges and tomfoolery in abundance to follow.
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Define Genitals. includes the female breast.” means the reproductive organs. On the female, this includes the vagina, clitoris, and vulva, but does not include the breast. On a male, this includes the testes and penis. State v. Couch, 635 P.2d 89 (Utah 1981)
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Yeah that's just me giving my opinion without grounds for it or anything nuance. I'm not trying to be some finger wagging moralizer nor imply anyone who doesn't want porn to exist is a fan of CSAM. Basically I think this is performative and will ultimately bring back a revisit to COPA and similar rulings. I did find it funny looking through the text above: > (ii) patently offensive representations or descriptions of masturbation, excretory functions, sadism, masochism, lewd exhibition of the genitals, the male or female genitals in a state of sexual stimulation or arousal, covered male genitals in a discernibly turgid state or a device designed and marketed as useful primarily for stimulation of the human genital organs; Does this mean panty shots are fine? Covered dongs no, but sears catalogs and ecchi are okay?
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>Goku doesn't even kiss his wife Men are innocent creatures in a world full of perverse women who violate them.
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@lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st @coolboymew@shitposter.world @noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world Oh so the "law against anime" is actually a law against virtual child pornography? I was wondering what's going on there. So it's just virtual child porn addicts losing their minds and starting to screech, seethe, and lie through their teeth because their virtual child pornography might be taken away from them. Makes sense.
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @coolboymew@shitposter.world @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world There is something called the chilling effect of the law, and that alone will make boobs censored too. Remember that feminists have majority power in American culture and Texas is not excluded. That is the lens the laws will be view through and not people who are sincerely concerned about AI-made, realistic CSAM. "This Japanese animated little kid can't have boobs, thighs, and hips bigger than upper average of an American adult women. She is muthafuggin' seventeen, you pedophile. Make her uglier and butch to prevent pedos from ogling at those huge breasts. Now!"
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @coolboymew@shitposter.world @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world Don't worry. Texas already punishes you for thinking one barely negative thought against the Jews and Israel.
@noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world The biggest lingering reason I’m not entirely outside the libertarian camp is despite thinking a lot of things deserve to be cracked down on, I have zero trust in giving that authority to politicians governments and magistrates. @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st @coolboymew@shitposter.world @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world
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I don't even want regular porno around, but this is a badly written law because it's ambiguous. This law can theoretically be used to make a lot of fairly innocent animation (e.g. Sailor Moon) felonious to possess. I dislike discussions related to age of consent or anything tangential to that because it brings out bad actors and bad faith arguments, but since we're here I'll call you out for being a shit head.
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"Who will watch the watchers?" I think it's a valid concern, especially when people as a whole are more ideologically driven today than 20+ years ago. The internet radicalized a lot of people into absurdist version of their normal selves, and the tribalism is pretty much dangerous at this point. I have a pet theory that one of the reasons "wrong think" is being reintroduced to social media is because the tribalism put us so close to a civil war and global societal conflict. There's other benefits to the system for chilling things out too, of course, but an unexpected USA balkanization would destroy the global economy. Reintroducing previously anathema topics is a pressure release valve but also gives some occasional chance for interaction.
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @coolboymew@shitposter.world @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world Not going to happen since the bill's passage was unanimous and GOP is just a capitalist version of the Communist Party at this point. By the way, no one has mentioned the possibility and angle of this law being abused to force American AI developers to shape AI output the way the government, in them name of protecting children, like putting some kind of DRM or lock or some stupidly ridiculous and cumbersome "failsafes" that harm normal and legitimate output that don't actually stop CSAM modelling or actual pedophiles producing CSAM output. Laws in Texas affect other states, due to Texas' population size, including California where the tech businesses are.
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> (i) patently offensive representations or descriptions of ultimate sexual acts Ultimate sexual acts sounds pretty based to me
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@NorseRealist@poa.st @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @coolboymew@shitposter.world @noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world ULTIMATE SEXUAL ACTS 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Ah yes, more bullshit from the Cuckstar State.
Taylan (Schizo Feminist Cat)
@coolboymew@shitposter.world @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world No, you retard. I questioned the necessity to use sexual objectification (of underage looking female characters, IIRC) to incentivize people to donate blood. If people NEED to be shown some big titty anime girl (who otherwise looks like a little girl) to be motivated to donate blood, because NOTHING ELSE can motivate them, then society is fucked. Besides, you don't know how many people may have AVOIDED the blood donation booth because they glanced at it and saw something perverse. If objectification can make people decide to donate blood, it can also make them avoid donating blood. Either people are smart and ethical and donate blood regardless of some stupid placard (in which case you don't need it) or they're stupid and/or have questionable ethical principles in which case the stupid placard may change their decision in either direction. You're trying to have your cake and eat it too: > People are so stupid that they need to be shown a sexualised little girl to be motivated to donate blood, but they're also smart and would never let such a perverse graphic dissuade them from donating blood. MAKES TOTAL SENSE The last time I explained this to you, you were too stupid to grasp it. I doubt that anything changed, but maybe the other people reading this will understand.
Taylan (Schizo Feminist Cat)
@coolboymew@shitposter.world @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world > First, she's in college Irrelevant. Shinobu is a little child no matter how loud you scream "nooo she's a 9000 year old vampire!" IIRC the character you're talking about is also intentionally drawn to look like a child. > > Besides, you don't know how many people may have AVOIDED the blood donation booth > Second, considering it's Japan, and you don't have to accept the gift either, this line of reasoning is a total cope You really believe that nobody in Japan is bothered by lolicon stuff? Boy, I have a bridge to sell you. How is a gift optionally given to people afterwards relevant at all? Did they try to attract people with placards of the character or did they not? (If they did, my point stands; if they didn't, it means people were donating blood anyway and didn't need the gift.) > The reality is that worthless feminist complaining, which is always crazy and based in lala fantasy land "Oh my god the character is attractive" as usual, had real life consequences in shutting down a blood drive with merch that would have heavily attracted people that probably wouldn't have normally given blood... And you defended it at all cost "BLAH BLAH BLAH it's literally impossible to have a blood donation booth without a sexualised character looking like a little girl!
BLAH BLAH BLAH" Cope. If it was shut down because people were that offended, that PROVES that it was probably driving people away anyway. Or was it an evil white feminist who suddenly descended from the skies and had it cancelled when all the Japanese people actually liked it? I bet you believe this.
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@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @coolboymew@shitposter.world @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world >One of the chief persons who drove a campaign against the Japanese Red Cross and their cooperation with the Uzaki-chan wa Asobitai! Oh! You were that freak along with the UN and that one femishit organization in japan. Actually, you need to kill yourself before God does something far worse to you.
Taylan (Schizo Feminist Cat)
@coolboymew@shitposter.world @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world I said "IIRC" because I don't remember the details / am not familiar with this Uzuki character or whatever the name is. It's also not the point. Any sexual objectification is bad. Texas can ban all pornography for all I care. Nobody is "banning anime." If you claim that because there's a law that bans lolicon hentai and things that could be argued to be lolicon hentai, you're straight up admitting that the only anime you care about is lolicon hentai and things that could be argued to be lolicon hentai. In which case: Opinion discarded.
Taylan (Schizo Feminist Cat)
@coolboymew@shitposter.world @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @dick@cawfee.club @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world Yeah let's all pretend that SHAFT didn't specifically draw a frame of her crotch when she had the body of a 10 year old, with the vulva covered with nothing but a band-aid. Shinobu is a character designed to appeal to pedophiles. Anyone denying that is either blind or an idiot. In your case it's clearly the latter.
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@taylan@fedi.feministwiki.org @Tsuki@amami.paradigm-x.tokyo @dick@cawfee.club @BowsacNoodle@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st @coolboymew@shitposter.world @lykanthrocide@shitposter.world @noyoushutthefuckupdad@shitposter.world @sun@shitposter.world He's right, though – you and your loathsome ilk have perpetuated a great and evil mischief on the world. We are going to fight you, we are going to enjoy fighting you, and then we are going to win.
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alright, you have to weigh like 300lbs and own over 5 cats. i'm sorry your face is hideous and even niggers don't want to fuck you.
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wooooof, no wonder this dude is so defensive
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i'm sad his father never hugged him enough or was in his life. fell for the propaganda he claims to fight.
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>Either people are smart and ethical and donate blood regardless of some stupid placard (in which case you don't need it) or they're stupid and/or have questionable ethical principles in which case the stupid placard may change their decision in either direction. False dichotomy >If objectification can make people decide to donate blood, it can also make them avoid donating blood. I guess the high-T and pro-social people donated blood and the dysgenic misanthropes stayed home and celebrated their victory for feminism by defeating the blood drive, or something. Soft eugenics. Well played, Japan!
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I don't like bleeding my own blood, but I would donate some if Uzaki-chan asked me to
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>yes lets make a girl with zero personality watsoever She does have personality, but the juxtaposition between her normal stoic and aloof state and her in combat or actually using magic is what makes it fun. Even simply using her as the plot device to make everything else work is great. It's a good show.
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Mmmm no very unwise.
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You sound fat AND are fat.
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So if it was revised to specifically go after lolicon smut without making DBZ illegal because you see Goku's pecker at one point it'd be okay with you?
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It would depend on the wording and purpose of the bill. I don't think stylized drawn characters are the same or equivalent to actual CSAM even though I don't think it's healthy. I don't think it should be equivalent from a legal perspective even if I don't think it's healthy; people shouldn't be treated worse for having potentially questionable-aged character hentai than for molesting an actual human child. That is retarded, and that's part of the proposed law.
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I didn't read through it, but this law would punish offenders worse than child molesters? In Texas, where they keep flirting with the death penalty for pedos? But sadly keep backing off... Granted it has been ten years. Has Texas joined the rest of the 'civilized' world in giving kiddie diddlers a ten year maximum sentence?
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I don't actually know the laws for Texas, but I know parts of the South and Midwest will give felony 5 bumped down to misdemeanor for groping a child below the age of 13. The fact that this is more severe than that bothers me. If they want to make it illegal and use it as a revenue stream and start issuing civil citations, I'd be all for it (provided it wasn't retardedly written). But to criminalize one type of smut and not go after the rest is weird, especially when "barely legal" porno exists. Basically I am skeptical of laws that seem to be written specifically to use as tools to attack people rather than serve society. This seems more like the former than the latter. Go after porno writ large and it would have my support.
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@BowsacNoodle@poa.st @Deplorable_Degenerate@eveningzoo.club >That is retarded, and that's part of the proposed law. That is what floors me. Texas and the Federal government both already have anti-CSAM laws. You only need to add definitions to those current laws that realistic AI-produced CSAM is to be prosecuted by the laws already in the books. No need for this added ambiguous nonsense, which is why I think it will be abused, like what has happened in Australia, to litigate media beyond a pedo's AI output as well forcing AI devs to apply software designs and code that is beneficial to the government but harms the private American tech industry and American tech users.