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PonyPanda
@p why can't I found our instance on the-federation.info
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Leyonhjelm
@p
What a silly thing for them to worry about. They need ice cream.
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PonyPanda
@p seriously?
> They blacklisted FSE because they're terrified that someone might post a Hitler joke; no fun
Do they admire Hitler so much that they don't like instances that joke about him? Because these guys still get a listing.
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PonyPanda
@p seriously though. What makes us so special? We're not worst offender when it comes to controversial stuff.

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>I am being serious, I think a lot of them hate the concept of freedom of speech more than they hate Nazism, they've screeched at/about me on this topic, and FSE's pretty shitposty so that sets off people with a certain mindset, the one that makes them way more upset to see some people that they disagree with having fun in a way they disapprove of.
To certain people, human rights is just a tool invented by the state to rule more effectively. They are ignorant of or deny the meaning, origin, and historical effectiveness of human rights.
Of course, no concrete system is suggested to allow people to live together. Just chortling at "checks and balances" and a bunch of platitudes.
"The ruling power is always faced with the question, "In such and such circumstances, what would you *do*?", whreas the opposition is not obliged to take responsibility or make any real decisions." - Orwell
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@petit@social.ufeff.club [email protected] @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
If libralism has shown us anything, it's that "human rights" are just a tool invented by the state to rule more effectively, especially when they control the narrative and can push whatever preserves their power to be the human right of the month.
Human rights should only be observed between people who share fundamental beliefs and are unified by a connection deeper than simple being "human". Trying to force their application otherwise will only result in less freedom and an uglier world for every variable group involved.

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@Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com [email protected]
Human rights have *at least* contributed to the end of state sanctioned torture, human trafficking, and religious intolerance in France.
The US bill of rights has done an excellent job protecting freedom of speech and the right to bear arms.
To me, this seems good.
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@petit@social.ufeff.club @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com [email protected]
You'll understand when everything has been taken from you in the name of human rights that perhaps we should never have respected the rights of certain humans, that perhaps tolerance is nothing but cowardice, that by failing to maintain a friend/enemy distinction, the tolerance we should have been free to show our own has been abused to enslave us.

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@Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com [email protected]
Anyone who tries to infringe on human rights is an enemy. There's your "friend enemy" distinction.
People only gripe about "the paradox of tolerance" to justify the darkness in their own hearts. "If we aren't awful today, someone might be twice as awful tomorrow, so let us be as awful as we can be!" Dissonance between values and means will cause any ideology to unravel.
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@petit@social.ufeff.club @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com [email protected]
It is this exact nativity which has gotten us to where we are today. It is saps who think like you which allow progressives and subversives to continue to operate.
Yes, this sounds like what the left means with their "paradox of tolerance", but unlike them, good people don't believe in the sacredness of tolerance for out groups in the first place. Tolerance is only good insofar as it benefits your group. There is no paradox. Those who regard it as one only do so because they are slaves who let others decide the friend/enemy distinction for them.
You appear to think it is "awful" to show intolerance towards enemies. In reality it is awful to tolerate your enemies more than you have to. The modern doublespeak of "tolerance" is not tolerance but subservience. Again, their mangling of the concept is why their "paradox of tolerance" exists.
This becomes clear when it is recognized there can never exist a world where tolerance is in everyone's best interest. If you aren't free to pursue your best interests, which inevitably will conflict with those of another group, you are not being tolerated.
You might say screw tolerance then. We should still leave everyone else alone. That idea, taken to its extreme would result in a utopia where everyone would be living in their very own pod, eating bugs, entirely disallowed from meaningful interaction with others. No exclusive groups, including families, will be permitted, since they threaten the ability of the system to enforce this ultimate principle. You can see this today with the disillusion of cultures.
Oh, but of course the leaders, who may just happen to be disproportionately of a particular persuasion, based on merit alone I'm sure, will have special privileges, because you know, they're running this benevolent system. But never mind that, the whole of humanity is united. Isn't that grand? Suicide isn't even illegal anymore. No more dads to have daddy problems with. We're so free.
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@Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com [email protected]
Tolerance is not a goal; it is a means. Classical liberals have explained in excruciating detail why individual rights are better for society and the individuals who belong to it. John Stuart Mill showed how censorship enfeebled the mind and shrouded truth.
Tolerance is the foundation of society. There is no "in and out" or "us and them"; we all belong to countless groups overlapping and intersecting. Tolerance is the glue that allows us to meet our self imposed obligations to different groups. Tolerance is what allows us to make political statements without worrying about whether we can still buy groceries. Tolerance is what allows us to end a relationship without worrying about losing a job. Tolerance is what allows us to practice a religion without fearing murder.
A society without tolerance can never be secure. On the one side, a difference in upbringing and genetics makes us into different people. On the other side, we must interact with each other. Any society that requires a homogeneous citizenry to function will blow up.
Bob Ross :verified:
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@petit@social.ufeff.club @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com [email protected]
Mill and those other fags don't know what they're talking about. Friend and enemy distinction is what every problem boils down to, even liberalism, where you get the paradox of intolerance.

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@BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz [email protected]
>Friend and enemy distinction is what every problem boils down to.
There is no friend and enemy distinction and can never be one. Any attempt at reductionism will fail because political problems are complex and people are multifaceted.
This inability to reduce political complexities to two groups is why all "us vs. them" labels are misnomers: conservatives are not conservative; liberals are not liberal; progressives are not progressive; etc. The fact that colors are used to represent the groups (red vs. blue) should be a big hint that the distinction is arbitrary.
This inability to reduce political complexities is why all groups are potpourris of unrelated views. The right to bear firearms is unrelated to family planning is unrelated to austerity policies is unrelated to minimum wage. Individuals are able to have views on all these things because they have values that interpret every question, but their set of values is unique to them and will have limited overlap with peers. Political movements are compromises by their very nature.
Political groups change. What once was core to one party disappears. More shockingly, this process is gradual. American Democrats used to be the party of the war torn post-war south.
Finally, the two main groups, "us and them" agree on far too much. If it wasn't really "us vs. them" how could they be in agreement on anything?
The friend and enemy distinction does not hold up under even the slightest scrutiny. It is a fantasy.
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@petit@social.ufeff.club @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz [email protected]
Jews understand the friend enemy distinction and use it to great effect by trapping people in those false dichotomies you mentioned. They are able to hijack the sentiment because it exists.

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@BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz [email protected]
Then don't fall for the false dichotomy like @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz did ?
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@petit@social.ufeff.club @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz [email protected]
No clue who he is or what he's about. Nothing about him would change the fact that every problem is reducible to friend-enemy, or center-margin if you want to be bigger brained.

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@BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz [email protected]
Every problem is not reducible to friend-enemy. For every friend-enemy distinction: the friend and enemy group agree on too much to be opposites; their names have nothing to do with what they believe; each group's shared beliefs are unrelated; the friend and enemy groups slowly exchange opinions over time; the friend and enemy groups slowly exchange demographics over time. Every friend-enemy distinction is blurry and in flux.
The friend and enemy distinction does not hold up under even the slightest scrutiny. It is a fantasy.
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@petit@social.ufeff.club @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz [email protected]
Difference existing within a particular group doesn't invalidate that groups particular nature. You're just spouting nihilistic nonsense.
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What's that have to do with anything? A shit tier white person isn't black, and model minorities aren't white.

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@BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz [email protected] @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz Your pure racial group is just last century's gene pool contamination. Are irelanders and poles white?
I'm curious. Do online NatSocs actually have a hierarchy for this shit?
PonyPanda
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@petit@social.ufeff.club I'm sorry. I'm not that invested in this conversation but I'd been meaning to go through it.
The bit about the Irish not being white is a red herring. Even leftists don't use it.
https://archive.is/9h72a
You can do a similar thing for the Poles and other Slavs. Poles may have been consider an "other" by various countries like Germany but nobody would debate them being anything but white. And we did see that recent bit about Slavs being considered "POC" but I'd love to see a Pole qualify for any sort of gibs for protected minorities.
We all know what a white person is without getting into some haplogroup autism. And I don't think there are any white identitarians that are bothered by minor exceptions.
@BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @p

Sorry, but the Irish were always ‘white’ (and so were Italians, Jews …

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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz [email protected] Yes, we can all agree "white" means something in the context of US history since segregation. (We can go back farther than that.)
However, when we pick concrete tests like "which side of segregation were you grouped into" we lose the universal historical relevance required for historicism: the anchors.
(I'll recap, since you're busy.) Earlier I said that we can't reduce everything into the "us vs. them" dichotomy because the groups are transient and ill defined. With a concrete example, US segregation, we have a test, but this won't generalize beyond its context. It is not a universal historical truth. How do we translate something like US racial segregation into the context of Spartan helots? This doesn't match the mysticism of historicism at all. Worse, for the racists, there's no common racial trend.
(Thank you for the article. It's interesting.)
MaleGoddess
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@petit@social.ufeff.club @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz [email protected]
White generally means "White people of European descent."
Yes, White people have gone to war with each other and hated each other, but White people are more like other White people than niggers, jews, dot head Indians, and chinks.

Bob Ross :verified:
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When playing a game of Russian roulette I can't use stats to predict which individual pull of the trigger is going to kill me. So I'm just not gonna play.
But the predicting individual behavior bit is almost a non issue in the big scheme. I don't do do racism because 1350.
MaleGoddess
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White people in America have more in common with other White people of the world than they have in common with niggers around the world.
MaleGoddess
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And to add to your "any random person regardless of race"
If they were black, they would be 20 times more likely to be a violent criminal. More likely to be on welfare. More likely to have raped someone.
If that sounds like you, then I guess you're just a nigger.
niceposter
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Bob Ross :verified:
[email protected] @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @petit@social.ufeff.club huh? Most everything is somewhat recursive so just calling it circular is a non sequitur. And you'll have to expand on you last point, I don't think I get what you're saying.
MaleGoddess
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You're right, being genetically predispositioned towards alcoholism, violence, and criminal behavior does not mean that you will turn out to be any of those things, but there's a good chance that you will be.
Same with people born to high IQ parents, doesn't mean that they will have high IQ, but there's a damn good chance that they will.
Bob Ross :verified:
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What I still don't understand about the second point is that if my logic is "circular" there is no endpoint I could follow it to in order to escape that circle. You're confusing your arguments here.
Maybe because you think i said anything about "objective" reality. Reality isn't really objective, it's a product of the social process. You say race doesn't matter because it doesn't. I say it does because it does. Given time and enough social proof, either of these could be true. I'm not a fan of the materialistic globohomo atomized world the people who say race doesn't matter want to create. It does matter, and it should.
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Is he libertarian for sure or some kind of commie? They all use the same logic and sound they same to me.
MaleGoddess
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Well, you know for certain that two midgets having a baby, that person won't be in the NFL.
You know for certain that two retards having a baby, that person won't be getting a Fields Medal.
Speaking of, if two black people have a baby,v you know for certain that person won't be getting a Fields Medal.
Yeah, there's a nurture vs nature thing in there, but a lot of times it's nature. Some people lack the potential because of their genetics.
We are not all born these blank slates with limitless potential only limited by our environment and upbringing.
Not everyone finds their knack, but some people will be better athletes, and some people will be better mathematicians, regardless of how much others put their heart and soul into something.
Predestination vs self determination.
Not every pitt bull is a dangerous dog, but more pitt bulls are dangerous than other breeds.
AMALEK_ETERNVL
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MaleGoddess
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Why are you such a nigger lover? You've spent days now defending niggers like it's your job.
MaleGoddess
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You're making all sorts of excuses for niggers and acting like they're just like us.

WhitesAdvocate
>I don't care about whitey
You care about whitey every time you care about how much crime or how good the schools are in an area. Whether you'll be conspicuous. Whether vendors will try to scam you. A myriad other things. Pretend all you want, intellectual coward.
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WhitesAdvocate
>Maybe I should care more about Chinese people
Same thing. What matters is you acknowledge the usefulness of racial categorization. Niggers and kikes collectively are evil, and the mere existence of exceptional individuals among them doesn't matter. Anything good we can get from a nigger or kike we can get from a White or Asian. There's no reason to tolerate their racial baggage.
>I can stand by what I have said, in public
Jews might give you a medal for it. They crafted libertarianism as a trap, and you're ensnaring others for them.
@p @BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz MaceDindu @MaleGoddess@poa.st @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @petit@social.ufeff.club

Basades Kaiser
[email protected] @AMALEK_ETERNVL@poa.st @BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @adamwright@poa.st @petit@social.ufeff.club it's not about superiority it's about survival retard.
We live under a system that's openly hostile towards us (if you deny this you are either a liar or blind) and we have lost our ability to collectively enforce our will for our own benefit.
Given that this system is not our own we can either destroy it, leave it, create our own or a combination of all.
Life sucks, life has always sucked and life will always suck, it is not a concern about material well-being you materialistic nigger, it's about survival, justice a and doing the right thing.
It is our duty to achieve as much power as possible and undermine if not destroy this system and to do everything in our reach to achieve these goals.
There is no point in conforming to evil people in power, there is no playing in a rigged game.
Are we supposed to just roll over and die while yelling Blacks Lives Matter as our enemies kill us anyways?
Nah, fuck that.
@p - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/p WhitesAdvocate - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/WhitesAdvocate BobRoss - https://pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz/users/BobRoss MaceDindu - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/MaceDindu MaleGoddess - https://poa.st/users/MaleGoddess PonyPanda - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/PonyPanda Tim - https://pleroma.inumbra.xyz/users/Tim petit - https://social.ufeff.club/users/petit You know, reading this thread makes me wonder what it is like to go through life with such an absurdly narrow worldview. I mean, have these people never seen or been anywhere? Have they just spent their entire sad lives in one six block area and then imagined that yes, the entire world is exactly like this?So, what's it like going through life knowing and experiencing so little that one can use words like those with a straight face and actually seem to mean it? Were you racist dicks dropped on your heads? Too much lead in the water? Do you forget to breathe sometimes? When you do, do you blame the nearest person that isn't like you? Seriously, how do you even function? 

MaleGoddess
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I've lived all over the country.
I've lived in Europe, been to many countries there.
I've been to multiple countries in the Middle East.
Not all peoples are created equal.
That's the simple truth.
Sure, there's some niggers out there that are smarter than me, and will be more successful than me, but most aren't and never will be.
On the opposite end of the bell curve, there's some stupid ass White people who are worse than niggers, but most White people are not.
COOL_FREE_RINGTONES
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[email protected]@poa.st @wolfie@pleroma.wolfie.pw @BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz [email protected] @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @WhitesAdvocate@freespeechextremist.com [email protected] @petit@social.ufeff.club there's also some stupid motherfuckers who are paradoxically capable of making excellent decisions for some reason

Basades Kaiser
[email protected] @AMALEK_ETERNVL@poa.st @BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @adamwright@poa.st @petit@social.ufeff.club You'll survive as an individual and a collaborationist but you are selling off your offspring lmao.
The situation of whites is dire, is not sadposting it's stating the facts, you don't act upon something by pretending everything is fine.
Blacks hate you regardless, that's what blacks do. You are going to be crying "we are on the same team" while niggers smash your windows. You've been warned.
PROtoss987
[email protected] @BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz @adamwright@poa.st @petit@social.ufeff.club What's the difference between "founding stock of a country, maintaining what it has built" and "every institution occupied by a foreign entity that has, as its religious dogma, the belief that you have no soul and exist only to be their slave"? I don't know, it just sounds like that darn fangled identity politics, that's not kosher at all!
COOL_FREE_RINGTONES
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@basadeskaiser@cawfee.club [email protected] [email protected]@poa.st @BobRoss@pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Tim@pleroma.inumbra.xyz [email protected]@poa.st @petit@social.ufeff.club blacks are statistically irrelevant, the jew is killing millions of them in the womb. At such a rate they're not gaining on whites. The reality is that the genocide is against both whites and blacks.
What you see on the fedi and what you saw on the internet over the past few years is the beginning of the creation of a new nation (or maybe a new race).