eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
Does "free speech" mean anything more on fedi than just being a transphobe or white supremacist? How boring
eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
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Considering white supremacy and transphobia have been the mainstream culture for like 400 years, it's just so fucking boring. Oh no you're resistant to change in the global paradigm, watch out world
chaotic avocado goblin
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eris - https://disqordia.space/users/eris *cut to fascists thinking that being a death cult for the nation is somehow innovative*
@eris@disqordia.space You have no idea how many times I've asked myself the same question.
@eris@disqordia.space IDEALLY this should be about one person, their speech and state. Not other individuals. But it's treated as a pass for being a jerk on Internet.
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space both of you are the type who want to forcibly extradite journalists because you are shitheads with no principles
grips
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@eris@disqordia.space >transphobia have been the mainstream culture for like 400 years Nobody even knew about trans people 100 years ago.
eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
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@a1batross@expired.mentality.rip yeah like not being persecuted by the state for it. Instead it's "let's create groups where we have no rules and can't kick people out" which of course people take advantage of
@ew@social.ancreport.com What the fuck are you talking about? @eris@disqordia.space
eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
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@grips@cawfee.club third genders have existed for thousands of years in indigenous cultures, it wasn't until the binary was enforced by Christian colonizers that it was seen as bad
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space if you gave a shit about people like julian assange being put in a cage, or jacob appelbaum being banned from every platform and facing extradition to the united states then you wouldn't complain about muh nazis. you don't care. opinions you don't like come with the free speech principle, that which you do not have and should stop pretending you give a shit about.
eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
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@ew@social.ancreport.com @bagofshit@rawr-xd.club I support assange, how's he a nazi? Wtf
nanachi
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@ew@social.ancreport.com @bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space freedom to be a furry doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
@eris@disqordia.space @bagofshit@rawr-xd.club if you support assange then stop complaining about free speech allowing nazis to have opinions
eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
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@ew@social.ancreport.com @bagofshit@rawr-xd.club how are the two related
@eris@disqordia.space I support Assange too. No idea what you're talking about guy. @ew@social.ancreport.com
@eris@disqordia.space @bagofshit@rawr-xd.club because people do not like assange's speech, and that's why he's in a cage. you do not like nazi's speaking. you are no different than the people who hate assange.
@ew@social.ancreport.com So basically we need to start goosestepping otherwise we hate Assange? Now there's a dumb opinion. @eris@disqordia.space
eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
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@ew@social.ancreport.com @bagofshit@rawr-xd.club Did Assange persecute minorities and forcibly take over countries or advocate for my death? No? What did he do again, oh yeah just leaked government corruption. Try again.
@eris@disqordia.space @bagofshit@rawr-xd.club he didn't leak government corruption, you know nothing about the case because you don't give a shit lmao
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space no, you are having trouble understanding anything I say because you have no principles or moral character.
@ew@social.ancreport.com Well maybe if you could explain yourself better....just sayin' @eris@disqordia.space
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space I did explain myself. free speech allows for people to have opinions you don't like. if you don't like that then you aren't pro-free speech, you are pro-censorship
@ew@social.ancreport.com I'm sorry but where did we say anywhere that we wanted to take away anyone's right to speak? I think it's you who's misunderstanding us you fucking idiot. @eris@disqordia.space
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space I'm not the one equating free-speech 1:1 with nazism.
@ew@social.ancreport.com We never did either dumbfuck. Try again. @eris@disqordia.space
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space >Does "free speech" mean anything more on fedi than just being a transphobe or white supremacist?
@ew@social.ancreport.com Oh I forgot we're allowed to have free speech unless we want to utter our opinion on how other people use their free speech. That's not allowed. Stop infringing on my free speech Nazi! @eris@disqordia.space
@eris@disqordia.space >communist tranny Get in the gulag
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space if you want to complain about nazis then complain about them, don't equate it to free speech.
@ew@social.ancreport.com It falls under free speech too you dumbfuck. @eris@disqordia.space
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space maybe you just don't like free speech
@ew@social.ancreport.com Probably a lot more likely that you just like Nazis. @eris@disqordia.space
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space nice try, I'm the first person to be banned by poa.st and am on their TOS
Jacques de Chan
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@eris@disqordia.space The entire point of things like this is that we got kicked off of everything else because the internet is dominated by massive, centralized spaces where social progressivism is the norm. Obviously free speech will be enticintg to those whose speech is most looked down upon by the norm.
@eris@disqordia.space I love making jokes
@ew@social.ancreport.com I'm going to give poor @eris@disqordia.space a break here and just block you now Ew. Enjoy your flawed conception of free speech away from me.
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @eris@disqordia.space >everyone I don't like is a nazi yeah bow out retard
@ew@social.ancreport.com Yes I'm the retard even though you're completely unable to understand the distinction I was making and are unable to make a coherent argument.
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club you just tried to call me a nazi and got btfo. just go join the them with your anti-free speech takes.
@ew@social.ancreport.com I can see why you were banned from poa.st.
Rusty Crab :lazer_z:
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@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @ew@social.ancreport.com never forget
That Guy From Norway
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@eris@disqordia.space i'm neither. it's just that i don't talk much about free speech. i just do it...
pistolero
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@eris@disqordia.space I think so, or at least it does to me. (There's also freethinkers.lgbt, one of the instances run by shebang.) I think if we're talking laws or rules, it's a shield against authorities stopping things they dislike, so it's inevitable that it gets used by unpopular figures, so who's using it now is just a symptom of the times. Nowadays it's thought of like a right-wing thing, but back when when Focus on the Family ( Focus_on_the_Family ) and the Christian Coalition ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Coalition_of_America ) had some political power, freedom of speech was associated with the left wing, which the religious conservatives were trying to censor. (I think Frank Zappa's testimony in the Senate is great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgAF8Vu8G0w . There's also the obscenity trial for the Dead Kennedys: https://qz.com/210900/the-obscenity-trial-that-made-h-r-giger-an-icon-for-punk-rock-and-free-speech/ .) It's also somewhat Anglosphere-specific; obviously in Russia they've got Putin's regulations that have illegalized "gay propaganda", the majority of the people on earth can get arrested for criticizing their government, and there are a lot of countries where blasphemy is illegal: https://end-blasphemy-laws.org/ .
Christian Coalition of America - Wikipedia
@bagofshit@rawr-xd.club @ew@social.ancreport.com @eris@disqordia.space No, you absolute retard, you utter fool, no one is asking you to goosestep, we want an end to censorship. We want to speak freely, because we have something worth saying.
RoyalJohnny242
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@a_breakin_glass@chaos.social @eris@disqordia.space -trannies calling other groups death cults Now there’s that autistic lack of self awareness!
[email protected] @eris@disqordia.space Pol Pot was right on the urbanite faggot question
eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
@s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks [email protected] sounds based
Seax
[email protected] @eris@disqordia.space Our views aren't even overly unpopular. Trump won an election through racism. What we believe is a lot more popular than child trannies or MAP rights or whatever else the regime is pushing.
@Seax@poa.st Please show me where I advocated for censorship, you absolute retard. @eris@disqordia.space
eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
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@p@freespeechextremist.com you I'm not even worried about lol like there's chill people on FSE, but then in any free speech group certain people think that means their only safe space to be hateful, like not even being subversive or insurrectionary just stupid
@p@freespeechextremist.com @eris@disqordia.space i like grotesque art a lot so that's a good lens to remember this by. remember the banning of ulysses and how i think the us government made it extremely close to illegal for mike diana to keep making comics after they found a bunch of them in a serial killer's apartment or something
RoyalJohnny242
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@Seax@poa.st [email protected] @eris@disqordia.space Trannies simp for and are kept thriving by the same pig system that destroyed Iraq, Yemen, Palestine and Libya and killed numerous innocents They are hated and despised justifiably so outside of their neoliberal hugbox
EyelessMC
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@eris@disqordia.space >being a gay like this >while having Lain as your avatar
@p@freespeechextremist.com @eris@disqordia.space hell half the reason i go to bat for people equating lolicon with cp is because i like extreme art and the shit i appreciate is almost certainly next on the chopping block after that
n8⚡⚡
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@eris@disqordia.space What do you MEAN you want a -a house + land -a garden -a steady income -a wife and several kids & a large extended family -guns -neighbors that look and act like you -faith in God and objective reality THAT SOUNDS SO BORING AND TRUST ME COMING FROM MEEEEE THATS SO SAD I LIKE TO USE SURGERY TO PHYSICALLY CASTRATE AND OR RENDER MY GENENTIC LINE INERT ALL IN AN EFFORT TO COMPLY WITH THE LITTLE VOICE IN MY HEAD THAT TELLS ME ALL SORTS OF CRAZZZZZYYYYY THINGS! GOSH. I CAN'T IMAGINE BEING A HOUSEWIFE OF SOMEONE SO BORING. NEVERMIND THAT I LITERALLY IMAGINE MYSELF TO BE A WOMAN BUT GOLLY GEE. HOW TRAGIC.
vivienne 💚
[email protected] - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/p @eris@disqordia.space - https://disqordia.space/users/eris I'm always impressed by lefties who genuinely believe free speech is a bad thing, its predicated on the cause served by whatever has power (including culture as a power) being the Good Cause, if that cause stops being the good cause they're fucked
eris :egoist_flag: :queeranarchy: :sparkletrans:
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[email protected] [email protected] I'm an egoist so free speech is a spook to me when I have the agency regardless, not so much that I think it's bad
Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies
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@RoyalJohnny242@poa.st @Seax@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space [email protected] They are hated and despised even in thier hugbox. They are only tolerated because their insanity, autism and sheer bloodyminded vindictiveness makes them excellent chaos agents and lumpenstasi to police and abuse everyone else for the overlords.
vivienne 💚
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@eris@disqordia.space - https://disqordia.space/users/eris [email protected] - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/p regardless of whether or not you believe cops are legitimate they can still put you in a cell
@eris@disqordia.space @aliasless@nya.social [email protected] I & the boys from the collectivist hierarchy rolling up on your egoist faggot commune.
Remington
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@eris@disqordia.space @aliasless@nya.social [email protected] >The transgender running dog for neoliberalism is also a mentally-ill anarchist Many such cases, sad!
AngryHortlerNoises
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@eris@disqordia.space reminder that no matter how loud you screech and no matter how many times your neoliberal capitalist friends in big tech try to keep us from networking we'll always find a way. but i digress please make yourself at home in the digital cesspit. there are no dilation stations here but feel free to use the men's washroom if needed. we hand out free rope and plastic bags every day at noon in the lobby if coping and seething aren't enough. welcome to the fediverse.
https://media-proxy.varis.social?url=https://poa.st/media/a5fdb80ac8cec9ef53a97a45d8de638980a67de304e51a65d3239b9547431055.blob&Sh-Gravy=WithPotatoes
Graf von Tripp
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@Seax@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @aliasless@nya.social [email protected] Except they don't have anything of value for the most part, think of them as some homeless camp.
BerlusHOHOHOni Fever
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@eris@disqordia.space shut up incel. You will never be a woman
James10550088
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@Tripp@poa.st @Seax@poa.st @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space [email protected] at the very least there'll be slaves
Graf von Tripp
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@James10550088@poa.st @Seax@poa.st @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space [email protected] You haven't learned the lessons of those who did hold slaves. Biomass is useful when its used as fertilizer.
AnonymousBosch
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@eris@disqordia.space Free speech is fake and gay, as are all other so called “human rights” (i.e. made-up shit), but I want to reiterate that you are mentally ill and once the Great Satan collapses there won’t be any pig cops to enforce your neuroses and you’ll finally be treated the way you deserve.
guttersessions
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@eris@disqordia.space your parents will use your real name when they bury you
borzoi
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@eris@disqordia.space "hurr durr free speech is for novelty obscenity" future scientists will call your bones male
acacia227
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@AnonymousBosch@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space i guarantee this person is jewish and lives in either los angeles or new york
Jaqulynn4872 🏳️‍⚧️ ⚧
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@s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks [email protected] @eris@disqordia.space Hey, you, sign this contract
Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum
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@eris@disqordia.space The ruling class objectively puts more effort into suppressing far right speech than anything else, so yes thats what free speech means. We are the actual edgy rebels that you pretend to be. Almost every flavor of leftist is allowed on Twitter and Facebook.
Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies
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@eris@disqordia.space Transphobia isnt real
acacia227
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@n8@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space this is what happens to you when you prioritize cummies above all else
RacistZikaBaby
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@eris@disqordia.space
James10550088
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@Tripp@poa.st @Seax@poa.st @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space [email protected] you're right but when I see white soyboys all I can think is theyd be better off working manual labor.
Graf von Tripp
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@James10550088@poa.st @Seax@poa.st @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space [email protected] Probably have to give them T supplements given how faggy they tend to be.
Seax
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@acacia227@poa.st @n8@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space This is true but a healthy persons idea of cummies does not involve chopping off his dick.
Remington
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@eris@disqordia.space Social progressivism/leftism is so transgressive and revolutionary that the Raytheon executive now working as the secretary of defense is saying it's the mission of ZOG to spread fag "rights" around the entire world. But yeah, you're the revolutionary who openly says speech norms should be even more restricted than they are now.
@AlbinoMutant@poa.st - https://poa.st/users/AlbinoMutant @RoyalJohnny242@poa.st - https://poa.st/users/RoyalJohnny242 @Seax@poa.st - https://poa.st/users/Seax @eris@disqordia.space - https://disqordia.space/users/eris @p@freespeechextremist.com - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/p
Dr.AlbinoMutant PHD Critical Zionist Studies (@[email protected])
Proud Anglo-saxon An unwilling subject of the Judeo-Faggot Empire Death to the Normans Living as an Anglo-Canadian in occupied Canada.
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RoyalJohnny242
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@eris@disqordia.space Trannies not defending the neoliberal great Satan elite pig empire challenge (impossible)
Steve
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@eris@disqordia.space - https://disqordia.space/users/eris It wouldn't mean that if tranny niggers didn't go out of their way to martyr themselves in between preying on women and children.
https://disqordia.space/users/eris
RoyalJohnny242
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@AnonymousBosch@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement did vigilante tranny slotting and called out the police for allowing this degeneracy to go about unchallenged
@eris@disqordia.space It sounds like you might understand that you have no moral high ground, but are yourself only taking advantage of others. i.e. willing playing your part in yet another round of musical chairs. Except your sort will never get to sit in one. Your role is to play defense for those willing to tell you what you want to hear.
RacistReimu
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@eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club nobody cares about subhuman cannibal cultures, dilate
RoyalJohnny242
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@eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club Those indigenous cultures also practiced all kinds of human sacrifice and indiscriminate killing of other tribes, fuck your revisionist fag shit
RacistReimu
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@grips@cawfee.club @eris@disqordia.space the first time they heard about trans people about 90 years ago they shut that shit down with the quickness
Rhodesian Yukari
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@eris@disqordia.space >implying change is always a good thing Imagine how easy it could to twist that argument in the favor of Fascism
NIGGALINI 🇩🇿
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@eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club "muh Christian colonizers" nigga we didn't need them to tell us to get rid of mentally ill crossdressers
@eris@disqordia.space Freedom of speech is overrated. Freedom to Awoo is where it is at.
@eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club you mean like Two-Spirit which was coined by Will Roscoe who was mentored by literal NAMBLA supporter Harry Hay?
RoyalJohnny242
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@niggalini@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club If I ever become El Presidente Por Vida Pulse Purifier O.M. is getting a posthumous Medal of Honor
skekzuck
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@niggalini@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club absolutely harambe
RacistReimu
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@niggalini@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club based bougnoule
ferrarilegends 🇸🇩
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@niggalini@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club one of the signs of the Day of Judgement in Islam nearing is people crossdressing, don't see why shitlibs keep thinking being against crossdressing is only a white thing.
Noided
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@eris@disqordia.space here,, don't spend it all in one place
@ferrarilegends@poa.st @niggalini@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club you guys call it a haddith right? or was it something else
NIGGALINI 🇩🇿
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@RacistReimu@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club merci monsieur babtou
ferrarilegends 🇸🇩
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@Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club @niggalini@poa.st hadith are the records of the words of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH). the Day of Judgement is just Yawm Al-Qiyama in arabic
NIGGALINI 🇩🇿
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@Judai@poa.st @ferrarilegends@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club yes, hadith is what the prophet pbuh himself says, usually used as supplement to what is attributed to the divine (quran)
ferrarilegends 🇸🇩
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@niggalini@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club (any quranists if you reading this, btfo, the hadith are a valid source of knowledge in islam)
NIGGALINI 🇩🇿
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@eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club btw someone asked for the reference, its sahih bukhari 6445
NIGGALINI 🇩🇿
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@ferrarilegends@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club quranists be like "im gonna reject over 1000+ years of jurisprudence based on my feelings"
Your Lovely Wokie
@s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks @p @eris@disqordia.space come on Satan, now you are being uncool
ferrarilegends 🇸🇩
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@niggalini@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club once argued about LGBT and Islam with a guy from reddit only to realize he was a Quranist and 90% of his argument was him denying the entire hadith
RacistReimu
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@niggalini@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club what unites us both: transphobia and homophobia
NIGGALINI 🇩🇿
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@RacistReimu@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club looks like we found the true path to inter-ethnic reconciliation mon ami
NIGGALINI 🇩🇿
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@ferrarilegends@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club which is dumb since even the Quran itself affirms that qawm al lut are in the wrong for the sins of homosexuality/pederasty
ferrarilegends 🇸🇩
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@niggalini@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club yeah but they always try to find some convoluted way to say that it isn't actually talking about homosexuality.
NIGGALINI 🇩🇿
[email protected] @grips@cawfee.club @eris@disqordia.space @ferrarilegends@poa.st @Judai@poa.st you are a self affirmed loli-nigger and your life revolves around drawn porn. You aint getting out of the hood 😂
NIGGALINI 🇩🇿
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@ferrarilegends@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club its like the liberal christians who try to affirm lgbt by claiming that mentions of homosexuality being sin in the bible (forgot which chapter and verse) is a miss-translation of a command against pedophilia
@niggalini@poa.st @ferrarilegends@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space Probably Deuteronomy. Libs love citing Deuteronomy. Even though Paul is explicit over this in his epistless.
[email protected] @niggalini@poa.st @grips@cawfee.club @eris@disqordia.space @ferrarilegends@poa.st @Judai@poa.st Next time you beat off to loli I want you to imagine each one of your ancestors standing around you holding a sledgehammer. Hopefully this will change your mind.
BerlusHOHOHOni Fever
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@niggalini@poa.st @RacistReimu@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club always has been
RacistReimu
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@a_breakin_glass@chaos.social @eris@disqordia.space it's not innovative, it's a millenia-old tradition that is awesome and based
Mochi
[email protected] @eris@disqordia.space they've tried every other diet plan.
ChristiJunior @eris@disqordia.space Rejecting biological reality isn't enough, they have to reject economic reality too.
Judge Dread :verified:
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@eris@disqordia.space There's an answer involving set theory. The set of all 'transphobes', as you call them, is around 98% of living humans and 99.99% of all humans who ever lived. So of course on any site where people are free to express their opinions... well...
crisp
@s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks [email protected] @eris@disqordia.space they wanted to censor video games and pokemon
crisp
@s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks @eris@disqordia.space [email protected] thinning the heard
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@ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com [email protected] @eris@disqordia.space "Instead of improving myself or seeking help, I'll favor destructive systems and then it's capitalists or cis people's fault when bad things happen!"
@ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com ChristiJunior @eris@disqordia.space why commit suicide when an ideology will do it for you?
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@negi@posting.lolicon.rocks @eris@disqordia.space You can't stop me.
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@negi@posting.lolicon.rocks @s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks @eris@disqordia.space [email protected] everyone drove drunk until the mid 90s, seen parents and uncles do it many times and we always got home safe
crisp
@s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks @negi@posting.lolicon.rocks @eris@disqordia.space [email protected] white people are genetically better at driving drunk
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@negi@posting.lolicon.rocks @eris@disqordia.space I could but only if you had asked very nicely. So as I was saying, set theory has determined that everyone finds trannies creepy and disgusting and will say so when they can.
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@s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks @eris@disqordia.space @negi@posting.lolicon.rocks [email protected] most drunk driving incidents are kids who didn't learn to drink properly or mexicans who drank 15 coronas
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@AngryHortlerNoises@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space trigger seething with this one weird pic. trannies hate it
Password Inspector
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@eris@disqordia.space It's Lindy
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@Seax@poa.st @acacia227@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space no more cummies after THAT one no sir.
@niggalini@poa.st @ferrarilegends@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club so basically the Bible-only Protestants of Islam? Are they faggots too?
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@mochi@blob.cat @ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com [email protected] @eris@disqordia.space TBF it actually is the capitalists' fault because corporate America pushes & enforces all this trans crap, & the corporate media set the cultural standards. If it weren't for that their father would have given them a good snack, told them to stop acting like a fag & that would have straightened out their thinking.
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@Seax@poa.st @ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com [email protected] @eris@disqordia.space my dad did that with me but I still like dick. I'm still very much a guy though.
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@mochi@blob.cat @ArdanianRight@freespeechextremist.com [email protected] @eris@disqordia.space You might be a fag but you could have ended up a tranny. I'd say it did some good.
@eris@disqordia.space What is the point of what you are doing here lmfao
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@MilquetoastQT@freespeechextremist.com what do you mean? I'm just vibing
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@ssailor67@shitposter.club @niggalini@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club a lot of them are, or support LGBTQ in some form or another
@eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club Eris you shouldn't delude yourself into thinking that you people could exist under anything but an era of hyper-abundant liberalism. There is no circumstance in history which provided the technology and institutional backing to "transgenders" that exists now in the historically white/christian countries. The current regime is the most optimized for meeting your desires—and when the regime falls there are much more primitive systems which could replace it which would make you wish you lived under german nazis (who were more indifferent to you than anything).
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@borzoi@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club I learned this a few months ago from a Mi'kmaq zoomer. She had never heard of 2S and when I explained it was like "that sounds like some white people shit." They actually have very strict gender roles, traditionally. Not every Amerindian group is the same of course, but it was interesting to learn. She also said, "Maybe it's from the Cree? They're pretty fucked up." I love learning about intra-POC racism. 😂
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@grips@cawfee.club @niggalini@poa.st @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @ferrarilegends@poa.st Interestingly, the word Paul used is a condemnation of both general faggotry and pederasty.
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@KitFistingGuy@poa.st @borzoi@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @grips@cawfee.club a lot of people seem to think that american indians were all peace loving hunter gatherers who used every part of the animal or whatever other dumb jewish bullshit was fed to them by their TV. truth is these people were raping, murdering, and enslaving each other since the beginning of time like everyone else. faggot shit, especially trannies will weaken or kill your tribe. and doubly so if your society is structured in a way that leaves you with little to no surplus resources. this is why every culture around the world hates homosexuals. LGBT trash is entirely artificial and dependent on a civilization that creates so much extra stuff that it can just carry their dead weight and suffer their decadent, dysgenic behaviors
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@Jazzy@poa.st @grips@cawfee.club @Judai@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @ferrarilegends@poa.st @niggalini@poa.st arsenokoites
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@n8@poa.st @Seax@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space without a dick the only cummies you'll be getting are from glory holes
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@eris@disqordia.space >Does "free speech" mean anything more on fedi than just being a transphobe or white supremacist? How boring Apparently not, considering how much effort is put into suppression "transphobia" and "white supremacy"
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@NEETzsche@iddqd.social truly transphobes and nazis are the most oppressed in our society
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@eris@disqordia.space Correct.
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@NEETzsche@iddqd.social If this ends up on fedi quotes i stg
@NEETzsche@iddqd.social @eris@disqordia.space The guy you're replying to is a communist - a moral monster who's apparently totally okay with 100 million corpses caused by his insane and evil ideology. Sanity and Decency are wasted on him, never mind reason and logic.
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@eris@disqordia.space >truly transphobes and nazis are the most oppressed in our society Who do you suppose are the most oppressed people in our society? Trannies? Jews? Some other group that is literally beyond reproach per the ruling class' standards?
@eris@disqordia.space @NEETzsche@iddqd.social
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@RoyalJohnny242@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @NEETzsche@iddqd.social I mean, the one thing I can say in favor of most communist dictators is that they would definitely have purged degenerate subhumans like eris.
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@eris@disqordia.space @ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com @NEETzsche@iddqd.social Pol Pot was right about larping urbanite pig neoliberals like Eris
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@ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com @eris@disqordia.space @NEETzsche@iddqd.social Hitler was more effective in dealing with commies than the Zionist Pinochet
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@ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com @NEETzsche@iddqd.social do you think I'd get tortured? Uwu
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@ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com @NEETzsche@iddqd.social @eris@disqordia.space I unironically like Pol Pot because all of his views on cities/urban elites have been proven right again and again
@eris@disqordia.space @NEETzsche@iddqd.social I mean, you might just gross out the members of the secret police so much that they'd just blow your brains out on the spot
@eris@disqordia.space @NEETzsche@iddqd.social You mean shoot your dick off?
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@ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com @NEETzsche@iddqd.social maybe he can shoot inside me first
@NEETzsche@iddqd.social @eris@disqordia.space Modern-day trannies tend to be pretty sloppy, they often haven't even bothered with removing their junk.
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@ChristiJunior@freespeechextremist.com @eris@disqordia.space Can't shoot off what's already been cut off.
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@eris@disqordia.space does transphobe mean anything more than doesn't want to touch your penis? how .... ugh
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@Seax@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space I don't think Trump won because of racism but I do agree that "MAPs" are severely unpopular.
@p@freespeechextremist.com Seax@[email protected] @eris@disqordia.space
@eris@disqordia.space Yeah, the "Hitler did nothing wrong" crowd are largely annoying. The more I interact with them, the less worried I am that they'll ever get anywhere.
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@rats_god@social.xenofem.me @eris@disqordia.space Yeah, I'm not even a fan of loli but drawings are drawings; I'm convinced that if you can commit a crime in a room by yourself with pencil and paper, the law is bad.
@Seax@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @aliasless@nya.social > the collectivist hierarchy
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@aliasless@nya.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @eris@disqordia.space There's a common misconception that words somehow cannot be used to cause action, and cannot be used to cause harm. Freedom to express your opinions? yes, this is a basic right. Freedom to tell people that some group of people is The Other and should be clensed? if people start going out and doing it, the orator is guilty of starting it. Harrasing somone until they kill themselves? Murder. Free Speech ≠ Free from consequences of your speech. As for situations when the state becomes corrupted against the will of the people, of course they're going to be suppressing free speech. if your plan for such a situation stops at talking about it, you're entirely missing the point. viva la révolution!
@TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com i agree w/ this - there tend to be a lot of power dynamics that modify the power of speech for different individuals so i used to have a naive take that summed up to "free speech bad" but then realized that this would just always be used against me - liberal cancellation mobs helped me understand this (interestingly, these are the sorts of people who are usually vocally eager to commit murder in the way you have described)
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@TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com > Free from consequences of your speech. How does this not descend into and argument over who was the prime mover, and thus aggressor, and who was the original reactionary, and thus justified? More, if the action is defined in the reaction what is the sanity limit? Some presumed normal?
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@moth@husk.site The whole goal of the "words are violence" conflation is specifically to shut down with threats any inconvenient ideas those people can't counter with reason and logic, while pushing their own unadulterated horseshit without any legitimate evidence while also claiming pointing out that the emperor has no clothes is violence. @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com
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@rats_god@social.xenofem.me - https://social.xenofem.me/users/rats_god @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be - https://fedi.absturztau.be/users/TransGal4872 @eris@disqordia.space - https://disqordia.space/users/eris @p@freespeechextremist.com - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/p Free Speech ≠ Free from consequences of your speech.then realized that this would just always be used against mestates as a single power are able to control speech by threatening you with consequences such as censorship to execution depending on the layer of hell you live on. the authority of the commune, the blocklist cabal, or culture itself deals out the same consequences.consequences are how authority is inherently enforced, so how do you draw the line between whose authority is good whose authority is bad?
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@aliasless@nya.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @rats_god@social.xenofem.me @eris@disqordia.space Free speech ends when people start getting hurt; I never advocated for censorship. that line can get a little fuzzy when it comes to psychological damage / PTSD, but that can typically be solved by societal punishment, or as I call it, "nobody likes assholes".
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@TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be - https://fedi.absturztau.be/users/TransGal4872 @p@freespeechextremist.com - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/p @rats_god@social.xenofem.me - https://social.xenofem.me/users/rats_god @eris@disqordia.space - https://disqordia.space/users/eris then you loop right back around to whatever force has diction over what constitutes free speech must serve the good cause.presumably, maybe you're a pacifist or smth idk (could be given that "people getting hurt" is unqualified), you consider advocating for punching nazis to be excellent praxis. that doctrine and everyone else being okay with it because its not violence against "protected" groups depends on everything that could deal consequences being aligned with that doctrine. what happens in the event of the alignment of everything around you shifting dangerously and unexpectedly?
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@aliasless@nya.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @rats_god@social.xenofem.me but people can choose not to associate with nazis too, no one will be forced to share a platform with them. And they still have free speech because they can use their own platforms
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@aliasless@nya.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @rats_god@social.xenofem.me @eris@disqordia.space first of all, as an anarcho-communist, I should say I'm definately not a pacifist. the whole "punch nazis" thing does go back to the "Pay evil unto evil" form of self-defense, but again, if all they do is yell into the void, who cares what they do? if their rhetoric starts causing people to be killed, then they are complicit in the deaths. your hypothetical about the prevailing morality changing rings a bit hollow to me as a communist, because that's the entire point. it's also inevitable that successive generations will find fault in the morals of previous generations, get used to it.
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@TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be - https://fedi.absturztau.be/users/TransGal4872 @p@freespeechextremist.com - https://freespeechextremist.com/users/p @rats_god@social.xenofem.me - https://social.xenofem.me/users/rats_god @eris@disqordia.space - https://disqordia.space/users/eris your post sounds incomplete to me."entire point" of what, and am i correct in understanding that that point is the ability to adapt to change or the ability to resist negative (to whatever subjects viewpoints) change?and what do you intend to say by including that final sentiment? because as its presented in this context it reads to me that evolution of ideology will be inherently more correct than older iterations, but i do not think that is what you meant.
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@aliasless@nya.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @eris@disqordia.space Capitalism requires a prevailing moral framework that is egoist and nihilist in nature, wheras Communism requires a moral framework that is utilitarian in nature. for your second point, it has been the trend in recent history for successive generations to have a superior moral system (as measured by things like happiness, comfort, stability, and survival), however, whether this continues remains to be seen
@eris@disqordia.space Is novelty the only thing you seek? Do you think you'll ever feel fulfilled that way?
@eris@disqordia.space Why change something that isnt broken. Why you not resist something that goes against what has been normal and lead to generations of your ancestors to success. You dont actually believe your ideology will bring you success, do you?
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@TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com @rats_god@social.xenofem.me lmao you deserve the gulag
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@TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > Capitalism requires a prevailing moral framework that is egoist and nihilist in nature, wheras Communism requires a moral framework that is utilitarian in nature. Capitalism does not require a prevailing moral framework; it's morality-agnostic. Communism requires people to believe that they are morally justified to compel others by force. In the former, the kulaks have more cows, and in the latter, the kulaks have more guns.
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > Capitalism does not require a prevailing moral framework; it's morality-agnostic. Not applying force against person/property is itself a moral stance, as opposed to "might makes right" for example, which for example is what taxation and expropriation are based on. On the other hand, imo, "ownership" would be better replaced with the concept of "custodianship". I think everything could be kept as-is, but with that simple tweak of perspective towards property, the world would change in an incredibly positive direction.
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@TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com @rats_god@social.xenofem.me Reminder every time you see a drug addled self mutilator calling himself a communist, just imagine Stalin writing "an idiot and a degenerate" in the margins
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@Ottovonshitpost@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com @rats_god@social.xenofem.me I just imagine the Tupac Amaru Revolutionary Movement laying down the law
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@eris@disqordia.space @aliasless@nya.social @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @p@freespeechextremist.com @rats_god@social.xenofem.me Why are you cooning for “muh private megacorps controlling everything?” I know the answer but I wanna hear you bend over backwards with Zionist elite dick in your mouth?
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@eris@disqordia.space @aliasless@nya.social @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @p@freespeechextremist.com @rats_god@social.xenofem.me are you willing to apply this principle to race? if i open a business why should i have to serve coloreds if you're allowed to not serve me for whatever arbitrary reason you chose today? oh but you don't like that, do you? no, that's mean to the brown people and hurts your feelings
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@AngryHortlerNoises@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @p@freespeechextremist.com @rats_god@social.xenofem.me Trannies not immediately going into tactical ancap mode to justify their gay bullshit and trick boomers challenge (impossible)
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@toiletpaper@shitposter.club @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > Not applying force against person/property is itself a moral stance A principle of social organization or a moral stance. (I think of the "NAP" as a moral stance, a reasonable personal ethos, but a moral stance isn't required to have laws against vandalism or murder.) > what taxation and expropriation are based on
> "ownership" would be better replaced with the concept of "custodianship" I think ownership is hard-wired as a concept.
grips - https://cawfee.club/users/grips eris - https://disqordia.space/users/eris Trans people did. That's like saying nobody knew about Australia.They've been attested in Western society since at least the third century AD.
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@wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org @eris@disqordia.space For example?
grips - https://cawfee.club/users/grips eris - https://disqordia.space/users/eris https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus, Empress of Rome?
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@wizzwizz4@fosstodon.org @eris@disqordia.space A prevert with total disregard for the empire he was supposed to be ruling... great example.
grips - https://cawfee.club/users/grips eris - https://disqordia.space/users/eris *sheLook, I never said she was a good or responsible person. I said she existed. First to come to mind, because of all the drama – but there are plenty more, if you'll only look.Only the best historians write about history from anything but their own narrow frame of reference, so you might have to trawl through the primary sources yourself; there's loads of erasure in academia.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Baty - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Baty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevalier_d%27%C3%89on - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevalier_d%27%C3%89on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lili_Elbe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalonymus_ben_Kalonymus - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalonymus_ben_Kalonymus
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > I think ownership is hard-wired as a concept. I think our perspective towards the world is very malleable based on language. I'm not saying it would be easy (I certainly can't wave my hand and magically replace the idea in people's heads), but I do believe that it can be taught to children and eventually become the normative attitude.
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@toiletpaper@shitposter.club @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space I don't have a lot of confidence in a plan that requires altering language (much less in a way that sounds a lot like mass-indoctrination), and I'm not sure it's being replaced with something better. Why is it the way it is now, and why are you certain that it's not better the way you suggest? (I don't think there's a good answer to the second question.)
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space You're free to regard it as indoctrination, but I don't see that it is anymore so than the status quo. What I'm suggesting is simply that a shift in our cultural ethos would improve a lot of issues. Ownership implies that anything non-human is simply a material object which can be disposed of as one sees fit without consequence. Custodianship on the other hand implies a temporary care giving or guardianship relationship, which in my mind is more congruent with reality on a number of levels, as well as inherently more ethical. I see no harm in saying so, to a child, adult or otherwise.
@p@freespeechextremist.com Any strategy that requires manipulating and forcing changes to the meaning and use of words is automatically suspect. @toiletpaper@shitposter.club @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space Apart from that, I mean simply that the language we learn as a child and speak as adults plays a huge role in shaping how we are fundamentally able to view the world around us. Change the language, and you automatically change people's imagination of their relationship with the world, as well as corresponding behaviour. Many cultures have figured this out in the past and altered their mode of communication in order to instil a desirable set of values in next generations. We're seeing that happen now with English (at least), for better or worse.
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@leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com @p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space Who said anything about force? As to manipulating, any choice of words or persuasive argument is intended to change/manipulate the viewpoint of the listener. That's the purpose of language in the first place.
@toiletpaper@shitposter.club > Who said anything about force? > the language we learn as a child and speak as adults plays a huge role in shaping how we are fundamentally able to view the world around us. Change the language, and you automatically change people's imagination of their relationship with the world, as well as corresponding behaviour. @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com
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@leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com So? Again, there's no force involved. I'm not suggesting to send jackboots around and arrest people for using a word I don't like. I'm suggesting that those who agree with my perspective should voluntarily choose to view things as such. If hey want to raise their children with those values, that's every parent's prerogative. You don't need to strap them down and force feed it to them. Anyway, as I said right at the beginning, I have no special ability to wave a magic wand and make it happen. I'm just saying what I feel would be a positive change. Tell me how I'm wrong rather than inventing imaginary tyrrany where none exists.
@toiletpaper@shitposter.club If you want to pretend brainwashing children is not a form of force, that's your problem, mang
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@leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com If you want to pretend that any form of parental guidance or education is tantamount to "brainwashing", that's your prerogative, but frankly I feel sorry for your kids if you ever have any.
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@leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com Yeah. My thoughts exactly. Look in the mirror m8.
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@oxblood@freespeechextremist.com @eris@disqordia.space >grannies wouldn't be shot on sight in any commie country The Che was a homophobe after all And I doubt that any non reproducing member of society would be welcome, since you need the replacement rate to be met in order to maintain the status quo of homeostasis of the systrm
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@leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com Meanwhile, my actual point is... > Ownership implies that anything non-human is simply a material object which can be disposed of as one sees fit without consequence. Custodianship on the other hand implies a temporary care giving or guardianship relationship. I contend that the latter is a better perspective/attitude towards the world than the former. What exactly is so controversial about that? How is that a wrong perspective?
@toiletpaper@shitposter.club You're the one making the positive assertion. It's on you to convince me, not on me to prove a negative. Which is probably why you think it's ok to instead force it on children who don't know any better instead of trying to rationality persuade adults who do. @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com
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@toiletpaper@shitposter.club @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > You're free to regard it as indoctrination, but I don't see that it is anymore so than the status quo. The status quo includes plenty of indoctrination. I'm not a fan. > What I'm suggesting is simply that a shift in our cultural ethos would improve a lot of issues. It sounds nice, but it's hard to force a shift in cultural ethos and it usually makes things worse when someone succeeds. > I see no harm in saying so, to a child, adult or otherwise. I don't see any harm in it either. So why don't we? Usually the answer to that question is "Because it either doesn't make a difference, or it makes things worse."
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > ...it's hard to force a shift in cultural ethos and it usually makes things worse when someone succeeds. Indeed. But how the change would be implemented had absolutely nothing to do with what I'm suggesting. All I can say is, if you like the idea, contemplate it yourself and try to govern your behaviour accordingly. But if on the other hand, you don't agree with the idea, I'd love to understand what fault you find with it (ie. ownership vs custodianship).
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eris - https://disqordia.space/users/eris Does "transphobe or white supremacist" mean anything more on fedi than just NOT being a: collectivists, a socialists or a sociopath?How boring
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@toiletpaper@shitposter.club @leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > any choice of words or persuasive argument is intended to change/manipulate the viewpoint of the listener. That's the purpose of language in the first place. The point of selling, maybe, but absolutely not the point of language. The point of language is coordination, this is a very different thing from attempting to change someone else's viewpoint. Birds don't attempt to write persuasive essays but they do warn each other of threats, advertise mating availability, or make threats.
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com > The point of selling, maybe, but absolutely not the point of language. I see your point. That said, I think there's a binary choice when communicating. Either you don't, in which case the other party has no stimulus to their consciousness, or you do, in which case a change occurs in their perspective according to what you communicated. Quibbles about semiotics and epistemology aside.
@toiletpaper@shitposter.club Dismissing the quibbles makes your entire point meaningless. The quibbles are vital to any discussion of communication. @p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space
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@toiletpaper@shitposter.club @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > But how the change would be implemented had absolutely nothing to do with what I'm suggesting. Well, if it's just philosophy and not an attempt at social engineering, then it's not a dangerous thing. > But if on the other hand, you don't agree with the idea, I'd love to understand what fault you find with it (ie. ownership vs custodianship). Just the questions asked, you know. Given that it's not a massive indoctrination program, where I'm left is that I am not convinced it's true, which is different from being convinced it's false, so I asked questions. I think one of the things that causes a problem is people not knowing when they've seen Chesterton's Fence. You bring up indigenous people, a bad argument, I think. I think, trivially, investment in the future is a value that keeps society stable, but if the big advances for humanity come from societies with a concept of ownership, maybe the concept of ownership is useful. It's concrete: this is yours, not under the purview of some vague people in the future, and you give it to your children when you're dead, which is concrete again.
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@leyonhjelm@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com > Dismissing the quibbles... If you want someone to do your wanking for you, hire a prostitute.
@toiletpaper@shitposter.club Communicating has a few vital qualities to be effective. Those are exactly what you are ignoring, or in the case of reimagining linguistic reality for innocent and naive children, subverting. Fidelity. If the message is communicated properly. Reimagining linguistics not only reduces fidelity of messages now, but the faithful interpretation of the recorded words of the past. Interpretation. Even if the message is received with absolute fidelity, they may not interpret the message or data the same way you do. If an individual is denied access to parts of the language or parts are replaced with subverted versions, you deny them the ability to interpret the world in the ways you have denied them. Value. They may not value the message the same way you do, or may even reject your value judgement outright. Your entire thesis of indoctrination of children against the concept of ownership is a juche style value subversion that does nothing but reduce the individual's interpretation of their own place in the world. @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space @p@freespeechextremist.com
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > ...if it's just philosophy... When I was a kid taking platform diving lessons I was taught the saying "Where the head leads, the body follows." It applies just as well in this case. > ...Chesterton's Fence. At this point the answer to why the fence is there is really anyone's guess and rather subjective. It predates anyone alive and there's no standard narrative that I've ever heard articulated. In fact there are many. I'm rather partial the classical liberal version of "private property" (to the extent that's synonymous with "ownership") personally. > ...indigenous people, a bad argument... I don't mean to put "indigenous people" on a pedastal. Just to point out that that conlangs are in use in the context of mystery traditions, and one of the several reasons for that is deliberate alteration of one's consciousness/worldview. > ... investment in the future is a value that keeps society stable... Custodianship inherently points the nature of the relationship being temporary. So implicitly it speaks to the future condition of the subject at hand. > ... if the big advances for humanity come from societies with a concept of ownership... I won't dispute there have been advances. Yet among them are advances in the degree of ecological damage, including to the resources human beings rely upon for sustenance and independence from each other. Many people who formerly were able to feed themselves off the land, are now unable to as a result of that land being seized and despoiled by industrial activities. They are thus rendered dependent on other men for their basic needs, which creates a level of enslavement which previously didn't exist. Cases of this are almost too numerous to cite. So, while we may be close to planting human footprints on Mars, that progress has come at the cost of a lot of damage, perhaps irreparably so. It's no mystery that people decry our materialism and commodification of nature as a prime causal factor, and something which needs to advance in a more holistic direction. > ... the concept of ownership is useful. It's concrete: this is yours, not under the purview of some vague people in the future, and you give it to your children when you're dead, which is concrete again. When you are conceived, the matter comprising your body temporarily takes the shape of a human being. In fact this matter and energy is in a constant cycle of ingress and egress throughout a person's life, with only the pattern of it's arrangement remaining somewhat consistent. We don't own the matter and energy of our own body, but are merely it's custodians for a time. The same is true of everything in our possession. That it will be passed on to some other party when we pass is just a fact. We may or may not have some part in choosing who that is, but it will occur regardless. The main difference I'm suggesting is one of responsibility to consider the condition that the subject will be returned in, so that the next one who has use of it will not be left with a polluted heap of toxic garbage, but instead something worth having. Clearly a lot of people are craving a similar shift in our perspective as a species, because the status quo of technological advance is arguably causing more problems than it solves. What I propose as a solution doesn't require any grandiose top down strategy to engineer society. It doesn't even necessarily require a change in our economic model. What it does require is people to consider the responsibility they have towards the condition of what is in their care, and in what condition it will be returned.
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@toiletpaper@shitposter.club @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > At this point the answer to why the fence is there is really anyone's guess and rather subjective. Worth thinking about. Usually if you give up on thinking about it and you're inclined to throw up your hands and say "Who knows?", the best course of action is to avoid tearing down the fence until you know why it's there. > Custodianship inherently points the nature of the relationship being temporary. Yes, but if you think of it as a thing you will want to use tomorrow, or a thing you will want to give to a friend or leave to your children, it's no less temporary, but the implications are more concrete. > So, while we may be close to planting human footprints on Mars I wrote "advances for humanity" rather than "technological advances" because I was not talking about technology. Plenty of things have gone wrong because progress is neither inevitable nor linear, but I wouldn't trade places with someone from an uncontacted tribe. How many casualties of war have we had in the past forty years compared to the forty before that? Even in absolute numbers, it's a staggering difference, but considering that the population of earth has doubled since the mid-1960s, we were killing off a lot more people by proportion as well. The global annual mortality rate in 1950 was 1.9%, it's about 0.75% now. Sure, not perfect (immortality is incredibly unlikely), but a hell of a lot better than 1950, and leaps and bounds better than before the Industrial Revolution. I'm not talking about one-stop shopping. > It's no mystery that people decry our materialism and commodification of nature It's not a mystery, but only for the same reason that it's not a mystery for people to decry literally anything. This alleged materialism and commodification of nature somehow accompanied an unprecedented spread of respect for human life and freedom, peaceful coexistence. > We don't own the matter and energy of our own body, but are merely it's custodians for a time. Nobody says "I own these electrons" but there is an entity that is my body, and I certainly do have ownership. The fact that I eat and aspirate and eventually rot in a hole doesn't alter any of that: the concept of a body is not a collection of specific atoms, it's vacuous to try to describe it in that way. > to consider the condition that the subject will be returned in It's not anything really different from the current concept in a meaningful way, I think.
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@rimugu@liberdon.com why not a collective of socialist sociopaths
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > Worth thinking about.... the best course of action is to avoid tearing down the fence until you know why it's there. Sure. And by the same logic one would also avoid chopping down the forest, digging the petrol out or minerals out of the ground, removing indigenous peoples from their lands, and all manner of other things. Thing is we cannot have perfect knowledge of the reasons for some things. Even so I could take a stab at answering why we chose "ownership" over "custodianship" as a concept of property. It has to do with the Christian idea that only humans have a soul, and that humans have "dominion" (from the same roots as "dominate") over the Earth. That was more recently followed on by the materialist-determinist philosophy of science, which while rejecting the premise of the Abrahamic God, did not in so doing reevaluate and reject the fundamental implications of that belief. If you consider that according to the evidence, human beings had an egalitarian nonhierarchical Earth/goddess centred spirituality for some 40,000 years or more prior to the common era, which was blithely swept aside exactly as you suggest of Chesterton's fence, it's clear that we should just as well reverse the premise and ask why we ought to tear down custodianship in favour of this ownership concept. You're right that it's good and important to think about. Fact is there are many many other societies besides our Western society who have adopted the idea of custodianship over that of ownership (or who never had "ownership" as such to start with), and there's quite a lot to commend the impacts of that decision as opposed to the contrary. Those are invariably the types of societies which people look to for inspiration in overcoming the issues our modern society has created. And rightly so. > ...The global annual mortality rate in 1950 was 1.9%, it's about 0.75% now.... That's highly suspect. We simply didn't have the means to make any such assertion 70 years ago, unless "global" was limited to the west exclusively. Besides which, it's not simply mortality at issue, but quality of life and freedom of people to live according to their choice of lifestyle. 150 years ago you could have drank freely from any source of running water without concern. Now you're very likely to ingest all manner of industrial pollutants if you did so. Fish and other wildlife don't have the luxury of a filtration plant. It's not only human life at stake. Rather than list statistics (because there are so many) I'll just refer you to the UN's recent report of species extinctions from May 2019. https://www.un.org/sustainabledevelopment/blog/2019/05/nature-decline-unprecedented-report/ > ...people to decry literally anything. This alleged materialism and commodification of nature somehow accompanied an unprecedented spread of respect for human life and freedom, peaceful coexistence. True. There's a lot to commend the progress we've made as a species. I don't mean to say otherwise. However there are also a lot of things we could stand to improve, for our own health and that of all the other species whom we share this planet with. > ...It's not anything really different from the current concept in a meaningful way, I think. The difference is in attitude. Custodianship implies care giving, as a parent towards a child. Ownership does not imply any form of respect whatsoever. Call me sentimental, but I prefer the former to the latter.
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@toiletpaper@shitposter.club @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > And by the same logic one would also avoid chopping down the forest, digging the petrol out or minerals out of the ground, removing indigenous peoples from their lands, and all manner of other things. This isn't an apt comparison. We know why there's uranium in the ground, and there was absolutely no intentionality. We know why some people occupy some places. A fence was put there, one has to assume there was a reason, intentionality. > If you consider that according to the evidence, human beings had an egalitarian nonhierarchical Earth/goddess centred spirituality for some 40,000 years This is fictitious and I've heard it. It's Noble Savage stuff combined with "Europe/Christianity bad". It's projection of new age spirituality onto cultures into which we have no real insight, and it contradicts a lot of what we do know: social structure was not some nonhierarchical global monoculture but was largely based around how food was gotten and whatever existential threats the locals faced. You have no hierarchy where you have no persistent resources and no external threats, people on temperate islands full of domesticated yams. The religious artefacts show a lot of animism and ritual cannibalism. Moving up to newer civilizations without European or Christian influence, you look at the Aztecs and you have big wars, castes, slavery, and human sacrifice. You look at Egypt and you have god-emperors buried with their slaves and cats and gold. You get it from ancient Ethiopia, Sumeria, everywhere you see a civilization. Mayans and Olmecs and Harappans and you can read Hammurabi's laws (I recommend it, they're interesting). Egalitarianism as an explicit value is relatively new. > That's highly suspect. You can look at their data if you like, they've got datasets for the graphs: https://population.un.org/wpp/Graphs/900 . However you feel about that data (it seems right to me, maybe it's off), you can be certain that we haven't had anything on the scale of WW2 since WW2. > The difference is in attitude. Custodianship implies care giving, as a parent towards a child. Ownership does not imply any form of respect whatsoever. As I said, I see the opposite: ownership gives you a concrete path, you take care of a thing because you expect a real person you know, someone that you can picture readily, to need it, whether you are that person or it is a friend or family member. But our approach to how we think of objects or animals is not that important.
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@p@freespeechextremist.com @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > This is fictitious and I've heard it. It's Noble Savage stuff combined with "Europe/Christianity bad". It's projection of new age spirituality onto cultures into which we have no real insight No. It's based on archaeological evidence such as the Matrons cult across western Europe, and from places like Çatalhöyük, et al, and even earlier prehistoric sites where the predominant iconography is of the sacred feminine. Basically all the prehistoric human figures extant in the archaeological record are female in form as far back as 40,000 years. It's also based on the lack of evidence of inter-human conflict (since with very rare exceptions, the human remains have no evidence of murder). Post agricultural societies do show a shift in the pattern, which culminated in the rise and spread of Abrahamic religion throughout the West and abroad. > The religious artefacts show a lot of animism... As to "ownership" specifically, that it is the point I'm getting at. The shift from viewing the world as spiritually animate, to being profane and antagonistic to spirituality, culminating in Abrahamic religion specifically, created this devaluation of the non-human, as opposed to the ethos of custodianship which previously reigned our relationship with the natural world. > Egalitarianism as an explicit value is relatively new. New in the post-Christian west definitely (unless you count Quakers and a few outliers). It's hardly a novel concept in plenty of non-Western cultures. Anyway, I suspect we've exhausted this line of discussion. By the looks of it we'll agree to disagree, which is fine. I was just stating my opinion to start with. I stand by that. I know from prior experience that plenty of other people feel as I do and will govern themselves accordingly. Eventually perhaps that attitude will win the day. At least I hope so.
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@toiletpaper@shitposter.club @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @aliasless@nya.social @eris@disqordia.space > Basically all the prehistoric human figures extant in the archaeological record are female in form
evidence of primitive goddess cult found on fediverse basically all drawings are of females The only reason that sounds absurd is that you know what all the anime girls are doing on the internet. As I said, you've got no actual insight into those cultures. Speaking of WW2, you see a lot of pictures of girls in soldiers' pockets and girls painted on the sides of airplanes. It requires a desire to see goddess worship to determine that female figurines (usually with exaggerated breasts and butts) are something other than exactly the same stuff guys still do: keep images of girls around because they like looking at them. Chimps will trade food to look at images of other chimps' butts. You've got a long way to go to ascribe much more meaning to it than that. > By the looks of it we'll agree to disagree, which is fine. Works for me. Thread's getting to be massive.
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>Almost every flavor of leftist is allowed on Twitter and Facebook. False. [Alexandra Elbakyan was yeeted by Twatter](https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/twitter-shuts-down-account-sci-hub-pirated-papers-website). @eris@disqordia.space >been the mainstream culture for like **400 years** False. It was the mainstream culture for like **370 years**, whereas man-hating has been the mainstream culture for the past **30 years**. Sadly, as I have only been alive the past **30 years**, I have little appreciation for posers pretending that they had anything to do with the preceding **370 years** when they have not.
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/twitter-shuts-down-account-sci-hub-pirated-papers-website).
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@eris@disqordia.space @search_social@neckbeard.xyz **cum**
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>cum I am indeed quite the fan of sex-positive feminism. Pity that modern censors have returned to the castity chages of the 400-year-old catholic church under the shameless banner of being "progressive". https://www.idrlabs.com/feminist-perspectives/test.php @eris@disqordia.space @grumbulon@shitposter.club @pernia@freespeechextremist.com
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz @eris@disqordia.space @pernia@freespeechextremist.com Interesting, have you considered **cum**
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz @grumbulon@shitposter.club @pernia@freespeechextremist.com chages
@eris@disqordia.space you're pretty cool but this is just boilerplate sjw rhetoric, its absolute retardation
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@pernia@freespeechextremist.com I don't really give a shit tbh, I'm not here to cater to everyone on fedi. I block nazis and criticize those who allow them to spread, if that's an issue suck my tits, also ily
@eris@disqordia.space das alrite. i'd just advise you to form your own opinions from experience and discussion rather than some cnn dogshit. also i'll suck ur tits any day :kissu:
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@pernia@freespeechextremist.com free speech is a spook but free speech groups to me are mildily entertaining shitfests, this isn't even about that, it's more how some people hide behind it to spread some stupid ass shit
@eris@disqordia.space >free speech is a spook i don't think freedom is a spook, its what differentiates humans from robots. but you do you >people do bad things true, but you won't stop evil from existing by reducing everyone's rights and becoming evil yourself. the only way to protect yourself from harm is becoming tougher, not weakening others
@eris@disqordia.space android is a shit operating system
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@pernia@freespeechextremist.com wow so you wouldn't give an android free speech?
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>There's a common misconception that words somehow cannot be used to cause action, and cannot be used to cause harm. No, the misconception is how the fuck is it possible to determine what harm has been caused when you fucks ban the very process that makes determining what the fuck is going on in the first place impossible - SPEECH. >Free Speech ≠ Free from consequences of your speech. Careful what you wish for.
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be "gender" is a concept made up by a pedophile rapist whose sole "successful" test case killed himself.
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>"gender" is a concept made up by a leftist Then riddle me this - | If | *the left* | CREATED | *the distinction between* | **sex** | **gender** | | Then why | *the left* | ERASED | *the distinction between* | trans**sex** | trans**gender** |
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz I'm not sure what that looks like on your screen, but it's about as mangled as your genetals on mine.
MaleGoddess
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@Godcast@poa.st @search_social@neckbeard.xyz @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be The part I don't get is if gender is a social construct, how can trannies have a male vs female brain? If you raise a female to be a male, supposedly that person will be a male and strive for male things. That's their theory anyway.
HerewardtheWOKE
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@Godcast@poa.st @search_social@neckbeard.xyz @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be Not to be pedantic, but John Money actually had two test cases, David Reimer and his brother Brian. Because David was raised as a girl (and thus "was" a girl), and Brian was raised as a boy (and thus "was" a boy), it's fair to say they both were test cases. Brian also killed himself due to John Money's actions.
search_social
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>how can trannies have a male vs female brain? It's very simple: the brain is **gender** and the body is **sex**. If a man wants to cook, which is clearly a job for women, then he clearly has a female brain, and he is clearly trans**gender**. However he is not trans**sex**, which would be stupid, he is just a man that cooks. The left deliberately calls trans**sex** abominations "trans**gender**" in order to gaslight men that should have just been male chefs into castrating themselves just to step into a kitchen. @MaleGoddess@poa.st @Godcast@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st
Bro-Drillard
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@MaleGoddess@poa.st @Godcast@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be @search_social@neckbeard.xyz You're expecting mental illness to be self-consistent and make sense...
Godcast
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz @MaleGoddess@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be that's retarded. Cooking in the home became a "woman's job" because it made sense to divide labor that way. The finest chefs in the world are almost entirely men. That also doesn't account for professional cooks or people like me who live alone and cook for ourselves. Trying to completely decouple biological sex and sexual expression is only conceivable in a society where sex is divorced from it's purpose: reproduction. In other words, transsexualism is an aberration.
RoyalJohnny242
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@Godcast@poa.st @search_social@neckbeard.xyz @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @MaleGoddess@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be My response against bougie ziopig trannies:
search_social
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>trans**sex**ualism is an aberration And that's exactly my point. Trans**gender** is fine. Trans**sex** is not. So why does the left conflate the two? @Bro-Drillard@poa.st >You're expecting mental illness to be self-consistent and make sense... No, I'm expecting **Reality** to be self-consistent and make sense. Physical illness follows rules. And bad actors can use poison to induce physical illness on purpose. And they can be traced through those same rules. @Godcast@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @MaleGoddess@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be
Armutt 🌲📉
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz @MaleGoddess@poa.st @Godcast@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be Please provide any mechanism by which the sex of the body and the sex of the brain ("gender") would actually be seperately determined
search_social
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>Please provide any mechanism by which the sex of the body and the sex of the brain ("gender") would actually be seperately determined Exactly as previously stated: |Crotch|Likes Cooking?|Sex|Gender| |Penis|No|Male|Male| |Vagina|Yes|Female|Female| |Penis|Yes|Male|Female| |Vagina|No|Female|Male| Note that the trans**gender** conditions (3 and 4) are easily solved by marrying each other. No body mutiliation (trans**sexual** surgery) is required. This is why the left 1984'd the word trans**sexual** from the lexicon, to gaslight 3 and 4 away from marrying each other and into body mutilation.
Armutt 🌲📉
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz Give an argument from first principles why cooking is feminine.
search_social
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>Give an argument from first principles why cooking is feminine. Cooking was just an example. You can substitute any hobby or personality trait you wish. Such as playing the flute, or introversion versus extroversion.
Armutt 🌲📉
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz le hipster trying to squish esotericism into his stunted liberal metaphysics has arrived
Godcast
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz @Bro-Drillard@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @MaleGoddess@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be It's a distinction without a difference.
search_social
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>le hipster trying to squish esotericism into his stunted liberal metaphysics has arrived Well no, you are just arguing in bad faith. Your true argument is "Nothing is feminine or masculine from first principles."; but of course that sounds stupid when you say it out loud, so you tried to disguise it by asking a trap [pun] question, and when I reversed the trap on you (by making you fill in your own example to stonewall on), you dodged the question instead of admitting your premise.
Armutt 🌲📉
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz Oh I fully agree that cooking is feminine. I was asking to explain why.
search_social
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>It's a distinction without a difference. No you aren't thinking. It is **consistent** for you to believe that transsex and transgender are the same, because you **also** believe that sex and gender are the same. But it is **not consistent** for the left to believe that transsex and transgender are the same, because the left **does not** believe that sex and gender are the same. Catching someone in an **inconsistency** is how you distinguish [pun] between a well-intentioned incompetent and a mal-intentioned liar. And **that** is a distinction with a difference. Know thine enemy. @Godcast@poa.st @Bro-Drillard@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @MaleGoddess@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be
RoyalJohnny242
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@hourmutt@poa.st @search_social@neckbeard.xyz B-But I like to cook...
Armutt 🌲📉
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@RoyalJohnny242@poa.st There's nuance but I didn't want to bother with this guy
RoyalJohnny242
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@hourmutt@poa.st Fair enough I apologize for interrupting your justified Mechanical Violation of this fool, please continue
search_social
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@RoyalJohnny242@poa.st >B-But I like to cook... And this is exactly the point. You are trans**gender**. And your condition isn't solved by mutilating your body (becoming trans**sex**). Your condition is solved by saying fuck society and cooking anyway. >Oh I fully agree that cooking is feminine. I was asking to explain why. Well, I don't think cooking is feminine. I think females are feminine. And anything they do is feminine. And it's true that females cook. But if I want to cook, I'm not going to let that stop me. And I'm a male, so anything I do is masculine. So cooking isn't anything. Men rear children too, it's called being a dad, and a dad's absence fucks children up. Men sew, it's called being a tailor. Men play with dolls, they're called action figures. Men wear dresses, they're called kilts. Men are secretaries, it's called the Secretary of State (and it used to mean something). Men can be empathic, it's called being a pastor (not the pedo kind). If a man wants to do something, the correct response is to do it. If females did that thing before, it makes no difference. This is literally the heart of true leftist philosophy (being gender-**blind**, just like being race-**blind**), so the fact that modern "leftists" have perverted it is strange and indicitive of either incompetence, corruption, or both.
RoyalJohnny242
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz @hourmutt@poa.st Not gonna read all that shit faggotolio Pic related: you
@RoyalJohnny242@poa.st @AnonymousBosch@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space didnt know mrta did this
RoyalJohnny242
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@MischievousTomato@neckbeard.xyz @AnonymousBosch@poa.st @eris@disqordia.space https://second.wiki/wiki/masacre_de_tarapoto
Godcast
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz @Bro-Drillard@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @MaleGoddess@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be leftists are idiots or psychopaths
Victor_Emmanuel 🇻🇦
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@search_social@neckbeard.xyz @Godcast@poa.st @Bro-Drillard@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @MaleGoddess@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be pointing out inconsistencies and hypocrisies of the people who rule you does nothing
hydramacready
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@Godcast@poa.st @search_social@neckbeard.xyz @Bro-Drillard@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @MaleGoddess@poa.st @TransGal4872@fedi.absturztau.be yes