Cayhr Immahnoob The ENvtuber drama is by and large a pathetic crab pot, users and aspirants climbing and clawing at one another to any sort of prominence. As soon as one climbs just over the lid and spots safe ground, others focus on them and pull them down with all their might. There is no amount of criticism from any one of these people against other than in any way feels genuine or well meant. They attack one another seeking dunks worthy enough of gaining a couple followers here and their on their Twitter who will never ever visit their twitch stream, let alone donate or deliver any form of monetary recompense. They chase a dream that gets further from reach by the day, and many are so dedicated to that dream because they already dumped $1500 on skeb commissions, they can't turn back now without looking completely foolish to anyone in their personal life they let know about such an investment. I have ventured into the world of indie ENvtubers briefly and found myself utterly disgusted by the vast majority of their behavior. Very few have any genuine interest in being an entertainer or taking it as a hobby. They all think it's a way to easy money, like all kids 12-22 right now who list "youtuber" as a career goal. The filth and misery they fling at one another is sourced in their own disappointment at not having the willpower, interest, or depth of character to make such a venture succeed, and I hope they accept it before they turn into another Randy Stair. That aside, some of them are genuine, and it's easy to tell. I just find the "community" built around it repulsive by large. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.