i love r/linuxsucks it's full of clueless casual users
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like imagine tomato except there are like 15 more clones of him and they all post to this one subreddit
lizzy :bi_heart: :cuwu:
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com i posted there when i was younger (I'm a long time linux user for the record) and tried to understand people's POVs and give genuinely balanced takes and explanations but i don't think this sub is genuinely about learning and constrictive criticism it's just a hate subreddit
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@mischievoustomato@tsundere.love the status of casual has been downgraded to special needs
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i found tomato clone number one already in a screenshot on the sub
@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com special needs (reliable computer) but yeah, a lot of linux criticism is warranted
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this is not a tomato clone
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com it is funny how many redditards follow the herd and install arch then hate it. if you are going to be a casual user then install a distro meant for casuals
@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com he saved himself
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ah, here's what I'm used to from this sub
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@mischievoustomato@tsundere.love @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com the rare Reddit Thinkpad post without programmer socks
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com that’s a lot of y’alls per post must be an elite level redditor
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People who don't develop software, don't care about tracking/ads and like living with their security/privacy nightmare. That being said, if all you want is Photoshop and Steam and you're not a developer, and don't care about privacy, Windows is probably better for you.
Kimochi Whyui (Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?)
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com who the fuck needs office? i havent opened an office app since school
di0nysius the patomskyite
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com "Reddit is full of retards." Water is wet.
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@why@shitposter.world Usually use Google office suite for school work now. Quite comical.
[email protected] Aside from my gripes with like Windows not having good package managers and whatnot NT and the environment surrounding it is terribly designed.
[email protected] @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com >Until user friendliness becomes a priority, Linux is not a good choice for a desktop OS for the average user. I don't want to derail this thread more, but I don't want Linux to be good for the average user. The developers that already have this kind of thinking now are making Linux worse every month and most of them want to turn it into a mobile OS with full on permissions for everything. I simply don't want that.
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@phnt@pl.borked.technology [email protected] We could just go to BSD once Loonix becomes NT version 2.
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@gray@clubcyberia.co @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com What have they expected exactly? Arch looks like something people with no life would use.
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@maxmustermann@shitposter.world @gray@clubcyberia.co Wait until they see someone using Slackware.
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @phnt@pl.borked.technology [email protected] Then the inevitable herd of scum will follow and yet another thing will go into the shitter.
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @gray@clubcyberia.co I did. Its so caveman tier, that I stopped using it.
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Cabanella :gnuke:
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@phnt@pl.borked.technology [email protected] @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com Linux is 'user friendly' enough anyways. There are full, complete desktop environments, most better than that of windows. I don't know how linux could become 'more' user friendly.
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@yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe [email protected] @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com Wayland At least that's what they think of.
[email protected] @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com >the Linux community is bad Good. >there's little incentive in switching to Linux in the first place. Good. >Linux is not a good choice for a desktop OS for the average user. Good. >But not for... pretty much everyone else on Earth. GOOD.
Cabanella :gnuke:
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@phnt@pl.borked.technology [email protected] @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com Wayland be like: how do i change resolution? UHMMM, USE CASE FOR CHANGING RESOLUTION????? how do i change the refresh rate UHMMM, USE CASE FOR CHANGING REFRESH RATE???
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ok so your OS sucks and you only use it because it's signals that you are in a cool kid club.
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[email protected] I'm a god damn schizoid nowadays and like having all my software up to my date on my system, it used to be impossible to keep my old windows systems up to date because I had installed tons of software. It's also a skill issue in some ways but if I end up in this situation again, I better be able to update everything. >But software packaging is still a mess in Linux overall. Too many package managers, too many standards. Actually true, christ almighty some aspects of Linux are legitimately cucked because of weird distro maintainers.
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@branman65@poa.st [email protected] @sysrq@lab.nyanide.com you're arguing with a guy who has a plan 9 cluster, you are not going to meet eye to eye with him
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oh noooooo
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@branman65@poa.st [email protected] @sysrq@lab.nyanide.com What I'm trying to communicate to you is that he does in fact like gatekeeping useful software.
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that's so gay, man. What are they afraid is going to happen if they dirty non-programming socks people start using good software?
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@branman65@poa.st [email protected] @sysrq@lab.nyanide.com Corporations will start adopting it and Linux will become NT part 2. NT fucking sucks.
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so Linux will become considered useful by the general public? I haven't used NT because I am just a general user so I can't confirm if it sucks myself but maybe NT sucks because Microsoft made it?
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@branman65@poa.st [email protected] @sysrq@lab.nyanide.com Have you installed Windows past ME?
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@branman65@poa.st [email protected] @sysrq@lab.nyanide.com Or are you like, on a Mac or something?
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I have a cheap win 11 laptop.
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@branman65@poa.st [email protected] @sysrq@lab.nyanide.com Head into cmd and type 'ver' then slam enter. You are using NT.
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@branman65@poa.st [email protected] @sysrq@lab.nyanide.com Anyways, you have all this ridiculous stuff that megacorps would have to squeeze into Unix, like gui apps to abstract the main attraction of Unix-likes away for Loonix. Everything is a file? More like everything is a graphical application. In NT, they still have support for legacy psuedo-devices (low budget block devices, files you can write to and the device will react according to what you wrote) that were designed for versions of DOS that did not support folders.
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love oh yeah? how about 255 char limits on paths breaking shit on Windows? or computer names getting truncated at 15 characters on a domain but still keeping the longer name everywhere else? Or how .NET 3.5 just never fucking installs right with update services in play? Or how user certificates are a totally different cert store from computer certificates? Or how Win32 services don't delete if you leave services.msc open? Or how you can tie identities to random DCOM services which then break if the identity password changes? Or how the SQL server browser uses UDP packets to query SQL server for whatever the dynamic RPC port du jour is if you don't specify the usual 1433 static port? Or how if the PDC of one forest goes down you can't do cross-forest AD auth anymore in a two way trust? Or how Microsoft thinks it's cool to charge twice for hotpatching by making you use Azure Arc, adding an unnecessary cloud dependency for on-prem servers, and then once more for the privilege of not having to reboot? Or how nothing ever works nicely if UPN doesn't match email address these days? Does this squirt even know the difference between sAMAccountName and a UPN?
Diabolical Catgirl
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@Nepiant@varishangout.net @dsm@fsebugoutzone.org My entire body is covered in a hydrophobic solution. I'm like Moses.
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @dsm@fsebugoutzone.org moses repelled water more than 1 nanometer, sir.
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@Nepiant@varishangout.net @dsm@fsebugoutzone.org I spray the solution out of my hands like iron man, only when necessary ofc
di0nysius the patomskyite
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@Nepiant@varishangout.net @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com Why did I get downvoted?: a -1 guide It was probably either a bot or someone making their posts and comments more visible by downvoting yours. These are things known to exist and a few at once can get you down to -3 easily. It's just a thing that happens sometimes, don't worry about it you'll be up again soon. Asking a basic question? Add in people who are gatekeeping jerks. Even on subs specifically for basic questions (including/r/NoStupidQuestions) or welcoming of newbies to a hobby, there are people who will insist you are a big lame dumb face for asking stuff and downvote you for it. Yes, even on posts in those subs specifically for newbies asking newbie questions. Yes, even if you say you googled and couldn't find it or googled and didn't understand. Don't worry about these jerks they're really not the majority in most subs, some are super gatekeepy though. Having a discussion about a topic to which there are two significantly different sides? Disagree downvotes shouldn't happen, but often do and without comment as to why. Even if you intent your comment as impartial, people will read into it. Be prepared. Still think something's wrong with what you put out there and you just don't know what? check the subreddit's rules (on mobile that's the three dots in the top right corner of the sub's frontpage. Community info.) and make sure you didn't break any. Make sure your comment actually adds to discussion. Oh I didn't know I had to carefully make sure every comment I make adds good to the world Low effort comments are seen as spam on reddit and reddit dislikes spam. This is the way of reddit, and your annoyance at this fact does not change anything except your karma which is lower for complaining. If you used emojis, that's the reason. some people super hate them. Does your comment make sense? 'specially on mobile with auto correct issues or if you did a fair bit of editing before posting, sometimes things get real messed up without you realising and it goes word salad. Check your tone, Text only can be a difficult way to get things across and we can unintentionally come across as being aggressive, which can go down poorly.
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Pawlicker 🐾😹
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@7666@comp.lain.la @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love That's nice and all, but why hasn't Linux fixed this yet: "If you sit down at a friend’s Macintosh, with its single mouse button, you can use it with no problems. If you sit down at a friend’s Windows box, with two buttons, you can use it, again with no problems. But just try making sense of a friend’s X terminal: three buttons, each one programmed a different way to perform a different function on each different day of the week—and that’s before you consider combinations like control-left-button, shift-right-button, control-shift-meta-middle-button, and so on. Things are not much better from the programmer’s point of view." "If the designers of X-Windows built cars, there would be no fewer than five steering wheels hidden about the cockpit, none of which followed the same principles -- but you'd be able to shift gears with your car stereo. Useful feature, that. - Marus J. Ranum, Digital Equipment Corporation "
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@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @7666@comp.lain.la @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love X is an extremely cheap shot here because it has accumulated decades worth of technical debt and is consequenctly a clusterfuck to work with. This isn't even a complaint with Loonix even just X h8. Which is always valid.
Pawlicker 🐾😹
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@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @7666@comp.lain.la @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love You're missing the forest for the trees. The quotes here aren't about technical debt but about the UI of UNIX in the 90s where nobody gave two shits and a fuck about a desktop anyone could use. There were so many bizarre desktops while Apple and MSFT were making desktops a human could use, that is before the Windows 8 Fiasco. Sound familiar?
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@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co @7666@comp.lain.la @mischievoustomato@tsundere.love >You're missing the forest for the trees. I don't care. I'm a tree humper.
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@lizzy@social.vlhl.dev @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com >reddit what else did you expect?