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Pedofedi should all be round up and publicly executed with anti-aircraft cannons.
Video files of the footage of that purge should come pre-packaged with all ActivityPub + MastoAPI compatible software

Phantasm
@dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe
>if someone looked into these KKKolleKKKtiva people
Don't worry. The FBI already has their database from a year ago.
>libel against netzsphaere and asbestos happens just barely a day after I made a public post critical of pedophilia in the Fediverse?
Also it's the same people that called loli.church a chomo instance despite their about page literally telling chomos to "fuck right off into the nearest woodchipper".

Phantasm
@dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe The official reason made by the admins of kolektiva is that he went to an Antifa protest. Take that as you want.

Arcana 👑
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@phnt@pl.borked.technology @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe why is the instance named after cp then?

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@phnt@pl.borked.technology @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe
I mean Antifa is at least militant stuff which could be an explanation for the FBI thing. I didn't know that. When I hear western anarchist I usually think of middle class white people with insufferable hair colors, not actual political shit

Phantasm
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe Because le funny name. It can probably best described as a more tame varis. I never really saw any lewd lolis coming from there unlike with varis or even neckbeard.

Arcana 👑
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@phnt@pl.borked.technology @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe sure maybe, but you can’t complain about being called nonce central if your branding is associated with that sort of thing

Phantasm
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe Nobody from there complained. It was about the fediblocker labeling them as pedos without even checking their front page. That was my point.

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@Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe
Stirner is so close yet so far. You need to put a hegelian spin on it. Power is when you do whatever you want. Stirner is right but in the inverse, negative sense

Cabanella :gnuke:
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@dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology
>Stirner is so close yet so far. You need to put a hegelian spin on it.


Arcana 👑
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@phnt@pl.borked.technology @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe loli is legally child porn, why the fuck would anybody even check? “Let’s just incriminate myself rather than just blocking something called illegal images dot com”

Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader:
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe >Loli is legally child porn
God damn what a shithole lawcode

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@dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe he did already make that distinction. liberty is what others take or grant for you but ownness is what you have regardless of whether you yet have the power to take liberty.

Arcana 👑
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@nerthos@shitposter.world @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe based law tbh
If a man looks at a drawing of two men kissing, that’s still gay porn, and if he enjoys those images he is enjoying gay porn. I don’t think people would disagree there.
The same logic applies. There’s only one reason that people would enjoy “loli” and those who create and distribute it should face the full arm of the law

Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader:
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net I think it's incredibly stupid to persecute crimes against fiction. Just execute any child rapists if any are found and be done with it, they'll do it porn or not.

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@Cyrillic@lab.nyanide.com @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe sounds a little like Heideggerian autism. Maybe I should read Stirner proper some time. Atm I'm still busy allienationmaxxing by reading kafka to become a true kafkapilled aliencel

snacks
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @nerthos@shitposter.world @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe we prosecute cp because its creation harms children. Last i checked usually no one gets raped when someone draws hentai

Arcana 👑
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@nerthos@shitposter.world its a gateway drug. Those who use such material will get worse
People should not be creating that kind of material

Views are that of my employer
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@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @nerthos@shitposter.world @phnt@pl.borked.technology @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe consumption is also a pipeline to real world child assault. The paraphilia can be acquired both by disposition as well as continuous reinforcement

Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader:
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net I don't think it is, met enough loli enjoyers that plainly despise interacting with actual kids.

snacks
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@dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @nerthos@shitposter.world @phnt@pl.borked.technology @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe why would that be the case more than with any other violent porn or even just violent media? Correlation != causation and all that

Arcana 👑
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@nerthos@shitposter.world yeah so have I, until they’re actually caught doing that thing “they would never do”
It’s a way for them to be partially open while duping people into believing that they aren’t actually attracted to children which they obviously are otherwise loli would gross them out

Cabanella :gnuke:
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@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @nerthos@shitposter.world
Sex drive is obviously different. Though I will add every person I've met IRL obsessed with horror movies is a weird motherfucker

Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader:
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net Again, I'm 100% in favour of just shooting child rapists, which IMO will have a way higher impact than any porn law.

replyReply to @[email protected]
@dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe I don't know anything about either of those people, Heidegger was mentioned in the little of Nietzsche I listened to but that is all I know
I take walks at night while listening to audiobooks, I'm not sure if I'd _read_ Stirner since most of his writing is just terminology for things I've already thought, I'd rather spend reading time on books about poker theory or such

Arcana 👑
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@nerthos@shitposter.world the ones who draw it are pedos too by definition and should likewise be shot.
What you suggest would eradicate the industry so we agree there

snacks
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@yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @nerthos@shitposter.world ok, question still stands. Do you think everyone who watches rape or incest porn will do these things irl? Because then you have a lot of cleaning up to do judging by most porn sites home page

Phantasm
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe
>loli is legally child porn
Alright, here we go again. Define loli. My definition of loli is lewd/naked drawing of child looking characters. Disgusting, yes. Illegal, only where I live and Germany. Arguably also in Netherlands. Drawings of children in normal situations being CP, you are retarded for thinking that. Period.
Under US laws, my definition is in a legal grey area and technically legal. For more info on that, ask maija.
>why the fuck would anybody even check
"Let's accuse someone of criminal behavior without even checking." Typical Mastodon tranny behavior. You do that once and all your earned respect I have for you is gone. If you are going to accuse someone of criminal behavior without checking if it is true, then technically that is defamation. Especially in the case of pedojacketing.
>“Let’s just incriminate myself rather than just blocking something called illegal images dot com”
>girldick.gay is apparently fine with these people
>TLA with a user that admitted to dating a minor is also fine.
>many more occurrences of above... also fine.
Because double standards don't exist at all.


Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader:
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net I'm just fundamentally against the state having any say over the creation and sharing of information. It's always a lot more downsides than upsides.
Which I'm honestly surprised you don't agree with considering your usual stance of "fuck society on the basis that they want to impose things on me"

Arcana 👑
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@nerthos@shitposter.world society imposing a strict ban on loli and drone striking the creators of it doesn’t impose anything on me because I’m not a nonce so I’m fine with it and encourage it because I find it disgusting

Qadse Sanur Qut ibn Quaadibz :catsader:
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net That sounds good until they start doing some mental gymnastics like "we're drone striking you because you liked a pic of a flat-chested 30 year old woman on instagram, and that's child-coded"

Phantasm
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@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @nerthos@shitposter.world
>Do you think everyone who watches rape or incest porn will do these things irl?
No, but you still should be shot for enjoying someone suffer to that extent.

replyReply to @[email protected]
@dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe well, some things were interesting like the observation that apostasy from the in-group is moral evil but apostasy from the out-group is moral good, I hadn't connected that one myself, so perhaps he is the one philosopher I'd actually sit down for

Cabanella :gnuke:
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@phnt@pl.borked.technology @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @nerthos@shitposter.world
I'll never understand the rape fetish. like, even in your fantasies, women don't like you?

The Discourse King :spede_grins:
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@nerthos@shitposter.world @arcana@fedi.layer02.net Beyond that, policing when pen meets paper is a dangerous slope to start sliding down

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@yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology @nerthos@shitposter.world they are too weak/stupid to do their own?

Arcana 👑
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@phnt@pl.borked.technology @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe >TLA with a user that admitted to dating a minor is also fine.
I’ve actively called users on there nonces. I’ve had huge arguments before all those instances blocked me calling them out for tolerating sex offenders.
I don’t see why you see it as some gotcha. Trans people are overrepresented on fedi nonce instances and get no get out of jail free card. It’s a serious issue that must be addressed and trans instances out there must show that they stand against such things and not harbour pedophiles. It’s that simple.
Under British law, loli is child porn. If it was a real photograph and it would count as child porn, then the drawn equivalent is as well.
It’s very, very definitionally simple and much of it, as is the case in law, is based on intent.
One of the court cases I attended was a man who watched horse porn on his mobile phone. He was fortunately found guilty and registered as a sex offender. I’ll never forget the joke the judge made on sentencing as it really cracked us all up, saying he wished he had the power to ban him from the Zoo as well.
Ultimately, is the material designed and intended to get a sex offender’s rocks off? That’s the definition.
Uncle Enzo
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@mrsaturday@shitposter.world
The problem is largely one of trying to treat everyone "equally" in a codifiable way. There is a certain amount of judgement that transcends this which must be punishable for society to work - but we are probably too late for that to be something that would be wielded correctly. Anti-discrimination law has gutted free association, and unprecedented levels of "law enforcement" exist now that enforce for their own existence to be justified in the next funding year instead of because there was a real crime and a real victim accusing them.
In a real society, a kiddie fiddler is executed by a mob and nobody is prosecuted because nobody is willing to complain that it happened. Because it's a net good and everyone knows what that looks like. Instead we have entrapment by feds against people who like gymnasts.
@nerthos@shitposter.world @arcana@fedi.layer02.net

Phantasm
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>I don’t see why you see it as some gotcha.
There is no gotcha. But if you label an instance as pedos based on the name and then never say anything about users dating minors on other instances and don't think twice before making decisions on what girldick.gay might be. Then you have exactly zero credibility.
>It’s a serious issue that must be addressed and trans instances out there must show that they stand against such things and not harbour pedophiles.
Problem with that is they'll loose half of their users once they do that. I wouldn't be surprised if _most_ of the users that make fetish and puppy play posts on those instances weren't closeted chomos. And frankly those users are the majority there.
>If it was a real photograph and it would count as child porn, then the drawn equivalent is as well.
This makes total sense until parents get jailed for being chomos if they have a picture of their toddler running naked on their garden.
>and much of it, as is the case in law, is based on intent.
That is good. Disproves my previous point if the judges think of the law in that way. But so far I don't have any good expectations for the UK legal system for many reasons. vid related
>One of the court cases I attended was a man who watched horse porn on his mobile phone.
Not a small number of chomos on fedi are also zoophiles. The reason as to why, is unknown to me. Maybe from all the cubs. 
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Cabanella :gnuke:
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@phnt@pl.borked.technology @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe
The UK does have a lot of nanny state aspects which I wont defend, but it's not like this video makes out at all. If you listened to 56%ers online you'd think we lived under Ingsoc but it's nothing like that.

The Discourse King :spede_grins:
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@Leyonhjelm@shitposter.world @arcana@fedi.layer02.net @nerthos@shitposter.world That's exactly it. Law has replaced social mores apart from anything involving civil rights. The question's become less "is this alright for society" (what society, who cares, you have to pay for the privilege of living where you can speak the same language as your neighbors) and more "if we codify this and create the structure to prosecute people over it, how will it be used to control other people on top of that?" In a polite and functioning society, they'd run the loli artist out of town. Now we can't do that because that's assault and mob justice and that's bad and racist, so we have to beg Uncle Sam to make it legal to put them in federal prison and hope he doesn't twist the rhetoric to, say, make drawing Benjamin Netanyahu as a happy merchant a prosecutable offense.

Arcana 👑
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@yomiel@new.asbestos.cafe @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology it’s like people saying “this person got 3 years in prison for saying they were English on X” when it reality it’s because they were threatening to ram raid their local MP

Cabanella :gnuke:
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@arcana@fedi.layer02.net @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @VIPPER@new.asbestos.cafe @melonhusk@new.asbestos.cafe @meso@new.asbestos.cafe @phnt@pl.borked.technology
or during the south port riots, almost everyone who got arrested "for a facebook post" was saying to burn down a migrant hotel lmao

Maltheus
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@mrsaturday@shitposter.world @Leyonhjelm@shitposter.world Codification and the "rules based order" are necessary in a hyperconnected/globalist society.
To cultivate norms, you need cohesion and separation. To enforce norms, you need responsibility and stewardship of your community. -- Those limitations were dealt with, and there's only one mitigation for the resulting loss.
People can't form norms if they don't talk to their neighbors and commute daily.
People can't agree if there's always a new view being brought to table, or an outsider with a contrarian view ready to comment.
People can't step up if they're used to the police mediating every disagreement.
People can't take initiative if they trust an external legislator to have done the right thing.
This is the price you pay for white-collar jobs, international production and shipping, the internet, living at a short drive from the city... all the pillars of today's world.
Uncle Enzo
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@Maltheus@lab.nyanide.com
I want literally none of those things.
@mrsaturday@shitposter.world

Maltheus
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@Leyonhjelm@shitposter.world @mrsaturday@shitposter.world lmk when you figure out how to detach an entire community from the global order without them seeing you as exploitable or outlaws.

The Discourse King :spede_grins:
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@Maltheus@lab.nyanide.com @Leyonhjelm@shitposter.world Globalist society is an oxymoron, stopped reading there

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@mrsaturday@shitposter.world
You didn’t miss anything. Whole post was fucking retarded
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Nudhul
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@mrsaturday@shitposter.world @Maltheus@lab.nyanide.com @Leyonhjelm@shitposter.world the entire world being connected is unnatural, precisely because we are not all the same. balkanization is a natural and good (if painful) reaction to being shoved together into an artificial cosmopolitan environment by faggot shitlib overlords

Maltheus
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@Leyonhjelm@detroitriotcity.com @mrsaturday@shitposter.world I'm agreeing with you illiterate niggers. I'm trying to tell you the problem is built into everything normies are interacting with.

