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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
Don't the Chinese own lots of property in Oz?
Chinese leave revolving doors everywhere, they maintain access, that is their Schtick.
I dont hate on it, but the one Xi wants a Chinese run world order, because it's the best way to protect China (as far as his view of China, the CCP and the world is).
Offence is the best defense.
Tianxia, the mandate of heaven.
It's coming.
I will not look to the CCP for salvation or Justice.
When the time comes I will be like "Hello New boss, I soeak Mandarin and you probably profiled me.
Feel free to kill me if you hated my posts, just please let my family flourish".
I like a world with strong leaders, freedom, capitalism, and criticism.
If I don't fit into the coming order, so be it.
I welcome my termination.
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@NEETzsche@iddqd.social
Ashkenazim and Sephardim and Mizraim care only about cleansing Ethiopic jews...I think Israel stoooed when caught though, could be wrong.
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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
That's a new angle...seems plausible to me. ETIM could be funded by CIA and others...good to know.
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@basadeskaiser@cawfee.club
But the Muslims have been in China for centuries and the Uyghur stuff has been going only the last 7 or so.
The Uyghurs have been there for along time.
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@basadeskaiser@cawfee.club
Of course.
But not total lies.
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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
I skimmed the article.
It's excellent and I will save it to PDF.
I will compare it's claims on Sri Lanka and Pakistan later with established facts and if they all turn out to be true, then I thank you.
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@basadeskaiser@cawfee.club
This is unwise, how a person treats their family and neighbors portends how they will treat a newcomer and stranger.
But that's your choice.
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@NEETzsche@iddqd.social
Sure I agree with this but my point is that just saying "oh this publication is Jewish and therefore is all lies" doesn't hold water.
For instance, a publication that publishes only lies is just waiting for a libel lawsuit.
So when Pony says " I wont read that source or trust it because it's Jew owned" that's argumentative deflection.
Disprove the fact not the source, otherwise you are saying you cannot challenge the source and thereby you are forced to accept as true until you are able to prove it otherwise.
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That's how this started.
Pony, I think, tried to rally support for his side in this discussion by calling EyelessMC a jew and questioning quoted sources as Jew-leaning.
But that is as nonsensical as me saying I will go one week without using Chinese manufactured clothes.
We just, for arguments sake, have to accept most media control is Jewish like we accept most cheap goods and clothes are made in China, instead of blaming sources.
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@basadeskaiser@cawfee.club
Sure it happens, seen dishonest ones too...but you miss the point
Even the worst liars are forced to tell the truth in order to function in society.
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@hourmutt@poa.st
This makes no sense to me.
Economic immigrants go to countries that pay well and pay its citzens and ethnic owners well.
So people forsake their origins in hopes to be oart of something better.
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Now, we see that CCP will have high influence in the near future globally, we also see what happens to their own citizens, especially Uyghurs and Cantonese, and intellectual dissenters.
So, knowing CCP is likely to dominate us, of course they will treat us worse.
After all, if family is treated bad, then friends and enemies will be treated worse - almost certainly.
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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
Not seeing what you mean here.
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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
Please explain why Jews are interested in making China look bad.
This is an interesting accusation.
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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com @Bajax@shitposter.club
Also, I think a Judeo-centric and sino-centric world are both bad in different ways, but I prefer the devil I know.
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@Bajax@shitposter.club @PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
Totally agree. Mao held China back.
It's almost like Mao was doing sabotage for someone.
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@basadeskaiser@cawfee.club
Sorry, are the Uyghur surpressed because of their ethnicity or their religion?
Haka, Manchu, and all those guys are fine in China and are not Han...
I don't think it has anything to do with ethnicity, but religion.
Which is a shame, Islam has been in China for many hundreds of years dont see why its a problem now.
Maybe it's because Mohammed said "there is no God but Allah, and the CCP is not his prophet"
Zheng He was a Chinese and Muslim historical figure, wonder how he would react to Uyghur treatment today.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He
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Zheng He - Wikipedia
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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
Ok I see the option on mobile now, but it's not hard to read or copy-paste and reformat if needed.
If you're no longer engaged, then just say so if this no longer interests you.
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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
Hong Kong lost alll its self determination since CCP took it over, of course you will comeback in three years and see it worse off.
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@basadeskaiser@cawfee.club
I asked this earlier: are really focused on the truth (insofar that we can verify it) or the source?
It seems the list of people saying these "allegedly false" stories of China grows each day.
Are all these countries and sources and Chinese speaking against The CCP in conspiracy against the CCP?
Really? Well I guess it is possible.
But you should supply a credible source to back that up?
Why? Well if every single thing Jews did was harmful and bad, more people would be dead. Ergo, logic says that - alleged machinations aside - most of the minor things Jewish conspiracists engage in are honest.
I have had Chinese tenants and customers before, and their dealings were honest.
I have Jewish neighbours who were honest too.
So please don't sell the bull$chi++ idea that every single printed word of a publication owned by a Jew is false.
The best way to be a liar is to bury your worst lies of many lairs of truth.
Henceforth, you had better have a good reason to show that this article is a BIG lie and not one of thoseb"layers of truth".
Ooooorrrr, you can cite sources that call it's claims into question.
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@PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
(Sorry own mobile I dont see formatting options)
Well I don't let my links talk for me because I cannot reason on my own, but because I don't want to type as much.
CCP, as I said earlier, does a form of loansharking with countries that they know are likely to default on loan payments.
Like any mortgage, when the country cannot pay for the infrastructure, they default and the mortgage lender has the option to grab the collateral.
Has CCP ever done this?
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Funny you should ask:
"The Central Bank estimated that Sri Lanka owed China about $3 billion last year. But Nishan de Mel, an economist at Verité Research, said some of the debts were off government books and instead registered as part of individual projects. He estimated that debt owed to China could be as much as $5 billion and was growing every year. In May, Sri Lanka took a new $1 billion loan from China Development Bank to help make its coming debt payment.
Government officials began meeting in 2016 with their Chinese counterparts to strike a deal, hoping to get the port off Sri Lanka’s balance sheet and avoid outright default. But the Chinese demanded that a Chinese company take a dominant equity share in the port in return, Sri Lankan officials say — writing down the debt was not an option China would accept.
When Sri Lanka was given a choice, it was over which state-owned company would take control: either China Harbor or China Merchants Port, according to the final agreement, a copy of which was obtained by The Times, although it was never released publicly in full."
Source:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/world/asia/china-sri-lanka-port.html
Now, this is perfectly legal since it was agreed upon by both parties.
But CCP does this by being a lender of last resort with the goal of setting up ports and bases abroad.
It's pretty much playing Go, and they are poised to win and rule in a cuthroat manner.
That's great, that's capitalism.
Capitalism has winners and losers.
Buy I am not gunna swallow the illusion that CCP does this to make a Kumbayah multipolar world. That's ridiculous.
It's a political take over, Tianxia...Mandate of Heaven.
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Back later fellas, gunna hike with my family.