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RoyalJohnny242
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@Cool_Dude@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st
My b, didn’t read that part

Wyatt
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@Cool_Dude@poa.st @RoyalJohnny242@poa.st healthy meaning people are not starving and there isnt mass homelessness ect
america might be hellworld but i can still get a hamburger for a dollar


Wyatt
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@slovborg@poa.st i just did a quick wiki and it seems like it was just a religious war am i confused?
HerewardtheWOKE
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@Wyatt@poa.st @slovborg@poa.st
The 30 Years war was FAR more complicated than just "a religious war". The religious views of the literally-dozens of participants informed their political views. For many, their political views actually informed their religious views such that some-flavor-of Protestantism was an "excuse" for certain individuals to take certain actions, and some-flavor-of Catholicism was an "excuse" for certain individuals to take certain actions. Importantly, there was also a LOT of in-fighting between Catholics and Protestants.
I'd also argue that the conflicting views in America can be viewed as religious in many ways, as they deal with fundamental understandings of how the world works. If you want purely political examples of this, just look to Rome and China.

Wyatt
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@HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @slovborg@poa.st again maybe i wasnt clear in my original post.
most war and conflict in history is down to clay , resources , religion , and ethnicity.
Very very few are over actual political differences (for most of history politics was religion/clay ect). What makes america unique is that our political differences are driven completely by a captured education system and media that rejects contemporary america.
I Cant think of any examples other than communism.

slovborg
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@Wyatt@poa.st You have to stop thinking of religion as a dispute between two fangroups of same magical sky fairy fictional series about what the stories are supposed to mean, as atheist ignorami would have you believe.
In the end, it's all politics.

Wyatt
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@slovborg@poa.st sure at its basic level politics is simply religion without god and religion is politics without the state (save islam).
But im talking about how america is breaking down now. Over shit like healthcare and drugging children and rewriting the language

Wyatt
@s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks this is clearly the most extremely obvious example of a war based on ethnic/religious tensions

slovborg
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@Wyatt@poa.st And 30 Years' War was over shit like monasteries and printing press and using vernacular language rather than Latin, when you think about it.

Wyatt
@s8n@posting.lolicon.rocks Most people cope with germany because they think it was about fighting the jews and the banks (this was a motivating part) but the reality is germany did what it did because they got unfairly raped after ww1. They wanted their lands back. And once they tasted blood they wanted it all.

pinemarten
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@Wyatt@poa.st There are plenty of examples of religious wars. And anti-racist woke-ism is a religion.

Cyclopes
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@slovborg@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st Yeah it is most like the 30 years war (which also created the westphalian state) but this time it is an industrialized society fighting over very similar things which may break apart the westphalian state.

Shadowman311
@Wyatt@poa.st While I don't normally like to quote Scott Adams, his "two movies, one screen" concept is especially true here. Back when he initially coined the term, which was about 2 years ago, the two movies were a tragedy and a comedy, both shared similar characters, and themes and were similar enough to where there could at least be some marginal level of cohesion. Now the two movies are both ultra-violent action movies that depict the other side as vile demons in need of either total subjugation or destruction.
Kyle Rittenhouse made this especially clear to me, he was a clear cut case of self defense and if he had happened 10 years ago that would be the general consensus of the majority of the population, now the polarization and hatred is so bad that something as obvious as that is considered a "debate". It's nuts and there are hundreds of other examples of this, this is entirely unsustainable and we are headed for one hell of a cliff.


weaf
@Wyatt@poa.st tbh, everyone looks like they want to settle things with violence but no one has the confidence to shoot first.
RacistReimu
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@Wyatt@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @slovborg@poa.st The French revolution, notably the Terror and the Vendéean Genocide..
RacistReimu
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@weaf@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st the repressive power of the US government is still too overwhelmingly strong for either side to be confident enough to engage in violence. When either it declines enough, or is proved to be a paper tiger, hell will break loose.

Basades Kaiser
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@weaf@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st because everyone wants to be cool, you don't look cool if you settle disputed with arguments.
That's Kool Kidz 101

Mister Łister
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@rayptheon@poa.st @Shadowman311@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st I was gonna poast that to but he would of just responded with "okay spinny wheel man" lol
ThatWouldBeTelling
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@Cyclopes@poa.st @slovborg@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st I would also add that outside interests played significant roles in the 30 Years War, which to give you a taste of how bad it was, I've read a lot of Germans said after WWII the former was worse. And that's a credible claim.
But without going into details I have yet to read up on since the whole thing is depressing, that could also happen with a US civil war 2.0, although there are major wildcards, like who has which nuclear devices, codes to make them work, and the big unknown of do any of them actually work anymore?
(Test bans have implications, and the weapons smiths have made bad mistakes in times past that resulted in our fielding warheads that for example stopped working after a while, see for instance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W47#Reliability_controversy.)

W47 - Wikipedia
TurboNormie
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@weaf@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st I think everyone instinctually gets this one will be for everything and the losers will be written about as the most damnable people in history for the rest of time. Everyone is being wisely cautious about being the parry to fire the opening shots as that will set the overarching narrative for a whole new historical era.

Netflix Presents - Gerald in Bruxelles
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@MisterLister@poa.st @Shadowman311@poa.st
Kickass aesthetics aside, I think the 80’s was the time by which any reasonably smart person could see the all-pervasive rot and corruption just beneath the sparkly glassy surface of this country
TurboNormie
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@ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st @Cyclopes@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st @slovborg@poa.st The Thirty Years war was on a whole different level to a certain extent. The part of Germany my family traces itself back to was so thoroughly razed our ancestral village of ~5,000 was completely depopulated and remained unsettled again for over 20 years afterwards according to church records. Basically everyone fled first to the Alps and then many to America after a few generations of tough living, displaced and landless.
sky999999
@Wyatt@poa.st Most civil wars are engineered by powerful elites, typically generals and politicians who see a weak central state and opportunities to seize power. Civil disagreements are just there for them to exploit. Political instability is actually a leading indicator for civil war, more than anything else.
This was a good thread on it https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1303841233698054145
https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1303841233698054145

crisp
@Wyatt@poa.st
my suggestion is get as far away from cities as you can if you want to 'avoid' the worst of it

slovborg
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@antifag@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st Yet Team Blue is bleeding even negro vote (the other Ethnics vote fairly evenly with huwites after you adjust for urban-rural divide) right now when they're trying to play the ethnic card like never before. Headlines would have you believe otherwise, but factually, blacks haven't voted as red as they did in 2020 since the 50s.
https://media-proxy.varis.social?url=https://poa.st/media/33b09ee8ad71ecb73c2b881a7b5f91a0d2af220ed3e144f41b30ad59fd9d752b.blob&Sh-Gravy=WithPotatoes

Bebe
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@Shadowman311@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st Yes luckily the Virgin Mary has promised us that Jesus will send fire from the sky upon us, so hopefully this will make our society wise up and become goodly again. She has also promised that the terrible things we see now will lead to the complete restoration of the Church, and we have other prophecies of an unprecedented era of prosperity which will come, so do not lose hope.

ThatWouldBeTelling
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@crisp@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st "get as far away from cities as you can if you want to 'avoid' the worst of [Civil War 2.0]"
That really depends on the shape of it. Per many accounts, in many parts of post-breakup Yugoslavia that was the absolutely worst thing to do, for individual defense in really rural areas automatically fails _hard_, see Rhodesia and South Africa, and collective defense is virtually impossible.
If the state can't suppress "gangs" let me call them, you need something intermediate between what I'm perhaps putting into your mouth and big Blue cities, which if things get really bad will become mass graves once they stop getting electrical power.
crisp
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@ThatWouldBeTelling@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st I'm not telling people to go at it alone. America is fucking big and there are plenty of places to hide. If you are a lone you're dead might no matter where you are. In that case I'd rather be with a group in city then alone in rural area.

slovborg
@bison123abc@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st @antifag@poa.st It is. Usually it's 90% or more blue.


slovborg
@bison123abc@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st @antifag@poa.st I tell you again: the differences are primarily urban-rural, not ethnic.



antifag :verified:
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@slovborg@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st I'm not really seeing any significant shifts to be honest nor do I think contemporary election results are a good metric.
The urban-rural divide is also ethnic. Rural Americans are of the founding stock while their urban counterparts are mostly immigrants.

slovborg
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@antifag@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st Sure, but it is a divide that is primarily urban-rural. You see greater affinity in voting within urbanites regardless of ethnicity, than within ethnicity.
GothGirlEnjoyer
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@slovborg@poa.st @bison123abc@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st @antifag@poa.st the eternal urbanite

antifag :verified:
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@slovborg@poa.st @bison123abc@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st Can you break down the urban "white" demographic? Because I know for certain the rural white largely consists of traditional Americans and New York is Jewish.
Urban cities in the Heartland who have a majority white demographic can/will still vote Republican (not that Republican is a perfect indicator).

slovborg
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@antifag@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st @bison123abc@poa.st Not really, they don't. Even Minneapolis is still majority-white... (I guess you could blame the Scandinavian heritage there, though?)



Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum
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@slovborg@poa.st @antifag@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st Urban whites are still largely voting for "anti-racism" which effectively puts them on the other side. If they were motivated by "urban nationalism" for the material or cultural benefit of urban people at the expense of ruralites, that would be different. On the surface I get that urban whites voting Dem could refute the significance of race but I think thats misleading.

slovborg
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@Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st @HerewardtheWOKE@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st @antifag@poa.st I would disagree, because neither do rural whites tend to vote red for their own material or cultural benefits. In the end it's an irrational divide in values – "anti-racism" is just a virtue signal, just like, say "pro-life" is (where one could point out that abortions affect blacks the most – so which is on the other side, really?)

Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum
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@slovborg@poa.st The majority of voters on both sides are too dumb to understand what its really about and they say and do a lot of things that don't make sense. Republican vs Democrat politics being fake is one of the main things white nationalists complain about. I think beneath the surface its all about Jewish power and fucking over whites, with an added element of big capital getting out of control. But yes in a "race war" or civil war 1/3rd of the whites would be fighting for team blue/dem/antiwhite.

slovborg
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@Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st And it would be dumb to say no to 1/3rd of the non-whites who're willing to support your side simply to keep up the "RaHoWa" illusion.

Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum
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@slovborg@poa.st I won't say no to the help of Thomas Sowell, but ultimately homogeneity is a desirable outcome, and attacking my race is still a core goal of team blue and the ruling class. If we are talking about voting, Republicans maintaining 50% of the vote in a 2 party system doesn't make me feel much better if the Republican party becomes increasingly shitty. It will just be hispanic Republicans bickering with hispanic Democrats over shit that doesn't matter while whites quietly get fucked in the background.

slovborg
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@Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st You do know that sexual reproduction causes homogenisation in long term, right?
Argentina and USA both started with 15% black population in mid 19th century. Argentina has homogenised. USA hasn't. Why? Because of obsession with segregation in the current over long term homogeneity.
https://media-proxy.varis.social?url=https://poa.st/media/737eca99d860b725829a2779fea9be9b43af866b88abfb0d98840dae60db0648.blob&Sh-Gravy=WithPotatoes

Graf von Tripp
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@slovborg@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st Gross, making halfniglets.

slovborg
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@Tripp@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st Go be gay somewhere else.

Graf von Tripp
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@slovborg@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st You're wanting to make a kike slave race, you go be a faggot back in Israel.

Kane
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@slovborg@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st We tried that, it made blacks just slightly more light-skinned. For this to work, you have to be A) reproducing at a high rate (we aren't), and B) not have a constant influx of more non-white people (we have this).

slovborg
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@Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st "I put bread in an oven 2 minutes ago and it still hasn't baked, it's a proof that baking bread in an oven doesn't work"
t. you, apparently
p.s. The goal is to have a homogeneous end-product, whatever that might be, not some nebulous conception of whiteness you desire for vanity reasons.

Kane
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@slovborg@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st A homogeneous society of mystery meats is what the jews want American society to be, yes. Easier to rule when you don't have solid roots.

slovborg
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@Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st That's because you refuse to grow your roots in America and prefer the "muh heritage" larp. Well, most of you. Appalachians and Mormons could do it.
Meanwhile Caboverdeans are as thoroughly evenly mixed between European and West African as you can get – and have way more solid roots than almost any "White American" does.
Newsflash: you are no longer European and will never be again.


mall0ry 苦レモン
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@slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st
You are serious, are you?
You show a bunch of racists an image like this and expect anything but disgust for your proposal.

Kane
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@slovborg@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st The kind of society I want to live in only arises out of White people. When you remove the Whiteness, you're not left with anything desirable from the point of view of a White person.

slovborg
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@mute_city@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st It's not disgust, it's seethe. Why I'm doing it? Because it both exposes their insecurity plain for everyone to see, as well as breaks down their "homogeneity" and "roots" as nothing but sophistry to excuse their overcompensatory narcissism.

slovborg
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@Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st This is probably why so many white people enjoy "exotic" countries so much. Hmm.

Kane
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@slovborg@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st To visit because they're different. They don't want to live there, as we can clearly see from their choices.

slovborg
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@Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st That explains so many "expats" and "digital nomads". Hmm.

Kane
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@slovborg@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st The exception proves the rule.

slovborg
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@Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st Is the current America also such an exception, a society that arose out of white people that no sane white person would want to live in?

Kane
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@slovborg@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st The current America is what you get when you let your society be run by Jews.

mall0ry 苦レモン
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@slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st
Tripple adhominem interspersed with soccer mom psychology and no argument.
It does command respect in its own way.

slovborg
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@Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st Wignats after a black person tells them that the gov specifically targeted their communities with drugs & guns; doesn't matter, take responsibility for your own actions, no one forced you to do what you do
Also wignats; god damn jooos brought p*rn & other degenerate things into my community and ruined us :/

Kane
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@slovborg@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st No the Jews also ruined black communities, they were relatively cohesive under Whites.

slovborg
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@Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st Ah, so now we're from "niggers can't sustain a functional society and can't live with whites" to "acshully niggers were okay until those pesky joos showed up!"
Curious.

Graf von Tripp
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@mute_city@poa.st @slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st He sounds like Nazbols back in Russia. Absolutely abhorrent.
Remington
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@slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st
Why should whites treat blacks as their in-group, especially when racial reciprocity doesn't exist?
Remington
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@slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st
Next you will tell me black communities are "food deserts" because DA WHITE MAN forced blacks to rob and steal from each other.
I hate civic nationalists and racial egalitarians so much, why are you even here.

slovborg
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@Remington@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st Last time I checked, poa.st was a free-for-all, not a racist-only zone.
Remington
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@slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st
True, which is why we can make fun of you for being an insecure miscegenationist that wants white people in Anglo-America racially erased
borzoi
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@slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st stop having imaginary conversations in your head with people that don't exist

slovborg
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@Remington@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st Protip: the sooner you leave the denial and anger phases and move on to the bargaining phase, the better off you'll turn out.

slovborg
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@borzoi@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st I'm having a conversation with one such person who "don't exist" right here right now in case you haven't noticed ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
borzoi
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@slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st I've seen you do nothing but strawman and put words in his mouth. Absolutely cannot believe I have to now coin the term Big Wignat to describe imaginary wignats you retards have invented to have disingenuous arguments with.
borzoi
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@slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st discovering what a disingenuous person you are is frankly a crushingly disappointing end to a great weekend I had

Graf von Tripp
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@slovborg@poa.st @Remington@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st Says the guy ablooblooing about everyone not wanting to fuck niggers and spics. lmfao dude, go make some retard babies with your sheboon.

RoyalJohnny242
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@borzoi@poa.st @slovborg@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st
Giga Wignat
Glory to the Gignat!




guttersessions
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@RoyalJohnny242@poa.st @borzoi@poa.st @Kane@poa.st @Rudolf_von_Goldenbaum@poa.st @slovborg@poa.st "of course I'm a Wignat, how could you tell?"


Gozu-Tennoh
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@RacistReimu@poa.st @weaf@poa.st @Wyatt@poa.st January 6th made senators crawl on the floor and put plastic bags on their heads and they're coping so hard in response (by aggressively hunting down everyone involved even if you just made memes)

BerlusHOHOHOni Fever
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@Wyatt@poa.st almost every South American country in the 70's. Although the people in disagreement were a small number of Commies, crushed in the end by the armed forces. Prob not a 1-on-1 equivalence, but you can see what happens in a dirty war.
Or what about Spain in the 30's?