A Simple Question for the Day You find many here who will think that we on the modern far-right are less morally upstanding than men like Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, Adolf Hitler, and Joseph Goebbels. That's great. We can all agree upon this. But there is a little fact that has me a little concerned. That little fact is that both the Confederacy and the NSDAP ultimately lost and their legacy smashed to bits. So my question is: if those men who are far more moral than us lost by God's will, how much worse will it be for us who are wicked? >But I am actually a moral person After being here around so-called White nationalists for three years, I do not believe you. The wicked vastly outnumber the moral and upstanding. Note that I am not excepting myself. Some of you do think I am a degenerate or worse. So again, if White nationalism is populated by those worse than the men in the Confederacy or Third Reich, then why do we expect God to give us a victory He did not give to our moral betters? We should expect Him to send us to a worse fate. "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. But I tell you, it will be more bearable on the day of judgment for Tyre and Sidon than for you." (Matt. 11:21-22) The main point of this question then becomes a command. You are not good. White nationalism is not in good hands, right now. Turn to the real Christ and His real Gospel. thechristianworldview.org/about-us-2/what-must-do-to-be-saved/

I'll damn myself to Hell and bomb my enemies women and children than be moral and let my women and childrem be slowly raped and genocided into oblivion

@Dudebro@nicecrew.digital What good is it if you are sent to Hell by God, find you and your ilk forcibly mingled with your earthly enemies, and remain at each others throats for all eternity, because He will not let you enjoy the fruits of conquest, ever. That's not particularly wise.

They were mixed anyways in every example you gave so what's the difference except I actually tried.

There's a very real possibility that someone doing such a thing from their perceived love for their own people would instantiate a far worse punishment back on their own people in the immediate and long term, and from both corporal authorities and The Divine. I know you're speaking in the abstract, but understand that our struggle is not against flesh and blood.

@SuperSnekFriend@poa.st Morality is for intragroup. Outgroups it's no holds barred

Nobody knows the answer. I do know the likes of Charlamaine killed his enemies and England was fine

@pepsi_man@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st yea, winning has nothing to do with being moral or how moral you are, or losing for that matter.

God help us

@wishgranter14@poa.st Define "winning". Francisco Franco won in the short term, among all the people who could have the title "fascist", yet his legacy was almost immediately dismantled right after his death in the 70's by vengeful liberals and hidden commies. Spain is in a shitty circumstance right now, almost suffering balkanization last decade. The only ruthless autocrat from the entire twenty century who is closest to our ideals and whose legacy did not seem to be immediately destroyed after death or disposal is Augusto Pinochet. I'm not interested in winning only in the short term. Part of that is realizing you are in a world created and ruled by a very angry, all-powerful, and insurmountable God who despises wickedness, then acting appropriately to that truth

@Dudebro@nicecrew.digital @BowsacNoodle@poa.st >Charlamaine killed his enemies and England was fine Don't you mean Gaul/France?

Yeah I'm at a family event and rapid firing

@Dudebro@nicecrew.digital @BowsacNoodle@poa.st Enjoy the time with your family.

@SuperSnekFriend@poa.st if god decides outcomes, then god favors the jews

Nice guys dont win wars If it wrong to fight my enemies ill gladly take my seat in hell

@wishgranter14@poa.st >then god favors the jews I beg your pardon? Being put under a Jewish hegemony for the last eighty years is not God "favoring" anti-Christ Jews. It's Him punishing us Whites for apostasy and immorality.

@VidMasterEon@poa.st 1. You don't get to enjoy anything in Hell, let alone the fruits of conquest. "For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?" (Mk. 8:36) There is zero joy and zero White victory in Hell. Stop being stupid about this before it irreversibly harms you. 2. If morality doesn't matter in the light of man's immediate reasons and wisdom, then why care about you or anybody in the closer circles to me? It's me against the world. Nobody has helped me, so I will not help then. Why be pro-White then? There is nothing binding you or me to any other White person outside of temporary, precarious, and purely transactional alliances. 3. Where are you guys getting this idea that I am against fighting enemies, moral and political? Is this an implicit admission that you are not actually for doing what is right, but just want to kill and hurt people? You all doth protest too much, methinks.

@SuperSnekFriend@poa.st then why punish adolf hitler and the confederacy? it just doesn't make any sense.

@LudditeMan@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st but hitler was not led astray, and he was defeated?

So was the Confederacy, and they were morally right. Sadly, the Good Guys don't always win. That is only in the movies. Often, the Good Guys lose.

@LudditeMan@poa.st @SuperSnekFriend@poa.st taht's what i'm saying, morality has nothing to do with winning or losing.

It is in taking up the fight regardless, and surrendering the outcome to God.

@wishgranter14@poa.st I didn't say they were "punished". I said God willed for them to lose. I cannot possibly see inside God's mind and tell you all why He made those decisions, and the book of Job precludes me from outright saying "this is why" or "that is the reason". I do not think the Confederacy, at least, was "punished" by God, but rather the Christian South was collectively persecuted by an apostatizing North. The results of Lincoln's imperial ambitions have negatively affected both North and South since the Civil War, which makes the Union victory historically pyrrhic. The point of OP is not that those two nations were "punished" by God, but that we who claim to be their political and ethnic children should not expect in the long term any better than the humiliating defeats they suffered if we ourselves believe, speak, and act far worse than they did.