I’ve come across this a lot so I wanna put this out there since there are many arguments resting on the presumed fact that one is able to tell a trans woman from a cis woman by looks alone, so I ask in these two photos who is the trans woman?

@vxlriye@spinster.xyz nobody cares, they’re photos. Look at all the pretty bricks with filters 🤣

An argument that's feet are planted in perception is reality. Has no foot in truth. If your argument is a man can employ cosmetic surgery to trick or fool a female into thinking erroneously that he is a female to. You aren't arguing that the man on the right is a woman. You are stating the man on the right is a convincing con artist. Of which correct after having FFS, voice box shaving. He is a convincing con. But that is all he is. A man who has used cosmetic surgery to try and look like a woman. Which is a shit description of a human born in female biology. A man is always man no matter how much he has paid his surgeon. @vxlriye@spinster.xyz

@vxlriye@spinster.xyz We don't care how good a lie is, that doesn't make it true

@vxlriye@spinster.xyz your parents will use your real name when they bury you

@vxlriye@spinster.xyz - https://spinster.xyz/users/vxlriye "Cis" is a highly offensive term to biological women. Men who attempt to subvert nature and recreate themselves in a female form are not women, and insisting that they are only serves to erase, devalue, and demean actual, real, biological women. Using the word "cis" makes you a bigot of the highest order. It needs to stop.

@hard_no@degenerates.fail @vxlriye@spinster.xyz There's no such a thing as a trans-woman or a cis-woman. There are women, and there are freaks who think they are women.

@hard_no@degenerates.fail cis is a scientific description as much as anorexic or depressed is, and so is trans, you could make the argument that using the word trans makes you a “bigot of the highest order” while using the same logic and changing a few words, it’s like saying that describing someone as anorexic is a means to demean someone, it’s not, we don’t look down on you for being cis it is only a scientific description.

@vxlriye@spinster.xyz @hard_no@degenerates.fail lol it's a "scientific" term? It was first coined by a chemist because it's a term in organic chemistry to describe the arrangements of certain molecules. She wasn't a professional in a relevant field at all. Is it scientifically proven true valid if I identify as benzene?

@vxlriye@spinster.xyz @hard_no@degenerates.fail so cis is just a scientific fact but man or woman when used according to material reality is hate speech, also don't tell people what they are and don't assume their gender but it's okay to force "cis" on people even when they protest it. Your ideology is full of shit and has nothing to do with actual freedom and objectivity

@vxlriye@spinster.xyz - https://spinster.xyz/users/vxlriye No. And let me be very, very clear, so you don't misunderstand what I am saying: "Trans" people do not exist and "cis" is a term that has no business being applied to humans. You 'don't look down on' women? No, you hate women, because you are not now, have never been, nor will ever be a woman. You can chemically induce whatever changes you like; mutilate your body surgically until you can resemble a woman; your DNA will never be female. You will never know what it is for your body to build and grow a new human being, or to even have the potential to do so. Women have that super power, men don't; using terms like cis and breeder are attempts to lower the importance of women in society. Words are important, and of late, they have been deployed as weaponry for specific purposes. Saying it's a scientific term does not negate it's true purpose. Tl;Dr Women and men are not cis, trans people do not exist. Your sex is your gender, it is binary* and immutable.*don't me with muh fragile x or muh intersex, that's a strawman to this conversation a d you know it.