I really do need to keep my hardware game in shape but to DARE imply you're better than me as a casual user at using the computer, and you also happen to be 33 years old.

@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com The late American Gen X and early Millenials are probably the most knowledgeable when it comes to computers. Early Gen X and Baby boomers have no idea, and only early Gen Z know how to use a computer more or less.

@phnt@fluffytail.org >The late American Gen X and early Millenials are probably the most knowledgeable when it comes to computers. Maybe. Some of them have written hardware emulators. But then again people in Gen Z have also written those with no outside help.

@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com I'm not really talking about those that already know how to use a computer. I'm speaking broadly, generally. I think you have a better chance of finding someone from the former generations that is competent with computers then what you'll get even with early Zoomers. Mostly because those people were raised on computers that did exactly what you told them and made no attempt at hand holding. The "American" part is just my observation where even the "more competent" generations can barely use computers outside of US. In Europe the more competent generation is basically only early Zoomers and then it went to almost zero with the late Zoomies around 2010 and kept getting worse.

@phnt@fluffytail.org @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com i wonder how much of a problem this actually is. those economically invested (microsoft, google, etc) already adjust to "make computers for absolute retards" and developers already default to a healthy platform-agnostic unixish. computers should be for people who want to use computers

@menherahair@eientei.org @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com my grandpa has a giant ass 2-in-1 like this! the computer is built into the back of the screen! the hardware sucks (for windows at least)

@why@shitposter.world @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com How much of a problem this is? Probably a majority of 12 year olds here have no idea how to actually use a computer. And I literally mean no idea. Browser tabs are an alien concept to them, they can't even install apps from the Microsoft Store, etc. They can click on icons without thinking at all and that's about it. And phones aren't a replacement for computers, because guess what. They'll have to know how to use a computer to even have a chance of graduating, or doing basically any work besides being janitors. Also sorry kirby that I turned another non-serious thread into a serious one. Autism can't help it.

@why@shitposter.world @phnt@fluffytail.org @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com the new way of rebelling against your school isn't to run cs or halo on the school pc It's to shove "led" into the USB ports of your school Chromebook and burn the place down before the tiktok jannies blacklist the trend

@Pawlicker@lab.nyanide.com @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @why@shitposter.world >USB Killer >this is ackshually a device for testing purposes only >$15 USD

@phnt@fluffytail.org @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @why@shitposter.world our computer classes were full of making presentations and text documents and I used to hate it because I thought everybody already knows how to do that. it's painful finding out that's false

@Pawlicker@lab.nyanide.com @why@shitposter.world @phnt@fluffytail.org Hell yeah, I'm all for that. Great entertainment.

Pawlicker - https://lab.nyanide.com/users/Pawlicker phnt - https://fluffytail.org/users/phnt nyanide - https://lab.nyanide.com/users/nyanide why - https://shitposter.world/users/why I heard about this, but what is "led"? What are they actually putting in there?

@phnt@fluffytail.org @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @why@shitposter.world not even a USB killer literally shoving shit into the USB ports until it smokes because they cut so many corners it lacks basic protections

@grips@cawfee.club @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @why@shitposter.world My moment of realization was when I had to work with graduates and it was faster to physically go to them, fix their "computer issue" and then go back to my work, than it was to help them through chat. Completely clueless to anything else than Chrome and VSCode. Graduates from EE actually knew more about computers than the developers writing software for them.

@fwc@0.5dollah.click @phnt@fluffytail.org @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @why@shitposter.world pencil lead and because they're school kids given free laptops with government money who don't see any value in treating what's not theirs as if it is.

@phnt@fluffytail.org @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @why@shitposter.world I feel this pain with my flatmate but he's not that dumb, it's just that he doesn't seem to know a lot of relatively common shortcuts. stuff like Ctrl+O or Tab autocomplete one time I did Ctrl+Shift+T in his browser and his head exploded

@fwc@0.5dollah.click @phnt@fluffytail.org @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @why@shitposter.world yeah but also kids tearing them apart and even damaging the battery or throwing them in the bathroom stalls etc. Just normal public school activities

@phnt@fluffytail.org @nyanide@lab.nyanide.com In my experience you can find early-to-mid millenials either working on sourceports of open sourced 90s games or emulators of 80s-to-90s consoles, as well as all kinds of official IT employing scheme. Early Gen Zs go much more around, some are reverse-engineering games from the mid 90s onward (Think the recent Tomb Raider Remastered, that required reversed engineering, although its lead director is probably a late millennial), others are doing odd things here and there, many are into the modding scene modding games they grew up with. Thing is, only early Zs will know how to use a computer, and only if they were exposed when they were literal kindergarten/primary school kids, since smartphones came around just as they were hitting middle school, but fliphones were already quite popular and many of them I remember having some. Later ones probably only found computers in their schools' computers lab, or at home, but they likely were already wielding smartphones or tablets.