The local college public radio station had some chicks that ran a "Democracy Now" show and as I recall every blurb they read somehow segued into a discussion about their cats or houseplants, basically the radio equivalent of the "Woman taking picture of Object" meme.

EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich what do you mean by a DN show? further left?

I think they were communists, or they were on before or after the communists I can't recall, sorry. They were just fun to listen to since whatever they were talking about took a second seat to whatever they were cooking for dinner. I guess they weren't very dedicated to the cause

EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich lots of podcasts now go on tangents. what I wish conservatives would recognize (and publicly say to other conservatives) is that the m5m is not "left". it might be further left than they are but it is much more about the establishment. the m5m has kept off progressive voices just like it has kept off conservative perspectives. and in the US where we lack the social services of most other rich countries, it's worth asking which side they've been better at making seem unreasonable.

wjmaggos - https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich Oh goodness. If more government social services promoted more by the media isn’t more establishment, I don’t know what is. You are delusional.

justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich just saying something in a disdainful tone doesn't make it true.the establishment does not want universal health care. re m5m, their big pharma advertisers know it would lead to pressure to lower drug prices like it has everywhere else.the conspiracy worldview never thinks through how many of their big baddies actually want different things.

wjmaggos - https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich Right, everyone else has managed to avoid Pfizer, AstraZeneca and the government mandates. 🙄And universal healthcare is indeed further left and that is precisely the audience that the m5m panders too as much as they can while also making sure they fill up their coffers. It’s not like a ref that seems like he’s bias towards one team but is actually biased towards another. It’s like a ref that is biased towards one team and that team is willfully blind with arrogance.

justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich with mandates, they would have made less under universal health care.if these companies are concerned about money, maybe that's also why they don't have on lefties who want much higher taxes on rich people and corporations.your claim is they push a left agenda and that's cause they're all secret commies in their heart or cause they hate America or maybe both?imo they don't push left. they go for profit - a wide audience w content palatable to ads and owners.

wjmaggos - https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich “with mandates, they would have made less under universal health care.”So mandates are better if people profit less from them? Do you think a priest that owns nothing is incapable of molesting children?

justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich ?

wjmaggos - https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich Money is not the only root to all evil. Pious priests can get very egotistical and so can a socialist that voluntarily takes a small salary to share what kind of a selfless intellectual powerhouse he is because he believes the correct path for everyone is the one that he comes up with.

Money was never the root of evil. The love of money is the root of all evil.

NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich being overly selfish is the problem. that can show up in an insatiable need for money or attention. probably other stuff too.but some selfishness is required. and people tend to think they have the right ideas. so compromise is really hard. that's where the conflict begins.and I focus on money because in our system, it's what allows the interests of a few who have more money to win out over the interests of the many. till it gets bad enough...

>being overly selfish is the problem That's a play on the "you're not nice" that lefties use on X. Thing is: who determines that? You? What makes you a qualified priest in determining who is "too selfish"/"not nice". As an example, the VP candidate you voted for signed a law that allowed his state to abduct people's kids to castrate them. To me that's "not nice", but to you it is. You can see how "compromise would be really hard" over such an issue.

EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret but I didn't say "not nice". I said selfish, wealth and a failure to compromise.who decides is exactly the question and why we've built institutions with rules we're supposed to follow, not lie and bitch about when it means a president can't do what he wants. how much did Elon spend to help the GOP?I somehow didn't hear about that law you claim exists above, but did just hear Rogan complaining about ICE harassing a guy he worked with for being brown.

EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret And here's a fact check of your claim, a law I'm not sure I support but which is not what you claimed.And you're proving my point. Rich people turned an issue about a very small number of kids struggling with who they are into a meme about the govt castrating your kids so you'll hate govt some more and they can have less business regulation and lower taxes. They turned money into bs to get what they want and us get less.https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36DH2RT - https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.36DH2RT

wjmaggos - https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret Obvious ostrich head in the sand when it comes to anything damning about the lefts cultural movements and its effects. Like I said, willfully blind because of arrogance. If I show you stats of how many kids are saying they are trans now and how many say they are anything but straight and the steep climb upwards, you will change it from being a small thing made to appear as a big thing into “what’s wrong with that? Your house is built on sand.

justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret it's this generation's version of punk. they're also less afraid of saying they don't like the gender norms or know who they are yet. ask how many are actually taking hormone blockers or getting surgeries. calm down old man. the kids are alright.

wjmaggos - https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret You can’t even hear yourself and reflect before you respond just as I predicted. Perverting kids sexual development is no big deal, says the flower child boomer as he calls me an “old man”.

justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret I'm 46. Are you not the guy in your pic? I have a kid in high school. I don't see the perversion you're talking about. I do see kids less scared to be gay than in my day. One issue I don't like is girls more likely to say they are trans or non binary than a tomboy and angry about the norms forced on them like when I was their age. They internalize it instead of getting angry at the system. Do you have kids?

wjmaggos - https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret And yea, it’s flower child boomers that burned bras and told girls they are no different than boys that brought this upon the world. My brother’s daughter in California is in a class where 40% of the girls say they are bi or anything other than straight. That’s not liberation. That’s confusion. I’m not an old man because I think kids should condition themselves to be grounded and principled and should harness and protect the power and fragility of sexuality.

justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret you're acting like older generations concerned about the degenerating of younger generations. they try shit, sometimes just to freak out people like you. look at the trolling here. same thing. and you think it's a plot instead of just what happens with kids.that damn rock and roll telling kids about Satan and to kill themselves.

wjmaggos - https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret I know people that acted out against their parents and got pregnant or got put in juvi. Those parents should just chill out. They are just trolling. You being elusive like this and down playing anything I have to say, no matter how severe the example, is precisely the problem and why “liberals” have nothing to do with freedom, liberty, diversity or equality. It’s all about stroking egos and making sure progressives can go through life with no shame or guilt.

wjmaggos - https://liberal.city/@wjmaggos EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret And people with your same tactics run for school board and become principals and down play any grievance that comes to them that seems like an “old man” grievance while they bend over backwards to stay cool with the “cool kids”. And things just keep ratcheting and ratcheting while new norms seem like no big deal. Meanwhile parents are pulling their kids out of public school in record numbers and bad things ARE happening with kids.

While he would never take a trip on a public bus down MLK Boulevard, he fantasizes that completely different people will run public healthcare. I do agree with you though. Between BigMed making a hash of it and our going broke (something he oddly doesn't factor) people will demand pretend government healthcare over non-existent, destroyed, "private care". Maggos will be first in line I'm sure for the "Canadian Solution" they have for Whites.

EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret here's where I'd assume somebody with virtue would tell somebody (even someone they agree with on lots of stuff, maybe specifically someone they agree with cause it would be more likely to be listened to) not to bring race into this. but wtf do I know.edit: I should add I know of no NAS members in countries with universal health care that want to get rid of it. but in the US, wanting it makes you a commie.

The general decline in quality of life, including feeling connected to the people and things around us, does coordinate to the replacement of "heritage ethnic groups" in every country on earth and throughout history. Not everything is about race, but to pretend it's a nonfactor is willful blindness.

BowsacNoodle - https://poa.st/users/BowsacNoodle justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich it correlates with economic insecurity. rich people don't feel worse cause they're now having fancy parties with more people of mixed ethnicities. people are happy to move for better jobs. the person of another ethnicity who does something you like is not a problem. it's only when your life sucks that most people freak out about "diversity".peoples are always mixing. we define groups arbitrarily by drawing borders at certain times.

>it correlates with economic insecurity. Which is caused by what? Supply and demand is a thing on both sides of the pricing equation and does affect labor and production. Having effectively the whole world as the supply side for labor is not ideal for the vast majority of people. This is especially bad if you care about community. >rich people don't feel worse cause they're now having fancy parties with more people of mixed ethnicities. You know that's not what I meant, nor is it how reality works. >people are happy to move for better jobs "Happy" to have to move your life and lose your community because of work. Some people want that, most don't. The problem is the "anywheres" are just that, while the "somewheres" can't just pickup and transplant their community. If only liberals had the same respect for their own culture and countrymen as they have for the outsider.

BowsacNoodle - https://poa.st/users/BowsacNoodle justinerickson - https://noauthority.social/@justinerickson NoBeret - https://planetrage.social/users/NoBeret EvilSandmich - https://poa.st/users/EvilSandmich I share your concern about labor supply.what I said about being willing to move is not intended to discount the pain of moving but to argue that people usually put their economic well-being above staying in homogeneous communities.some people really like being with people like themselves. Not me. Hence why I like to argue with conservatives I guess. Not sure how many are more like me vs you.But the rich like us fighting over scraps.

>some people really like being with people like themselves. Not me. Hence why I like to argue with conservatives I guess. Not sure how many are more like me vs you. A sizeable amount, probably more than half per research from Haidt et al. >people usually put their economic well-being above staying in homogeneous communities. And for many, if they had the choice, they wouldn't want to consider that. I don't even care if a community is homogeneous so much as not wanting it to change because of outside forces. Someone like you, with more cosmopolitan leanings, can literally go anywhere, but somebody like me has more considerations than just economics. It's quite absurd that "anywheres" expect those of us with a "somewhere" to just roll over and accept their attempts to hijack and usurp our space like some kind of parasite, and if we protest it's because of [insults and slander de jure]. This is why people hate carpet baggers and the new equivalent that formed in the remote work era.