"Deemed" because we all know people who foam at the mouth over loli make rational decisions on what is and is not acceptable.

Kyonko802 What jokes

Kyonko802 Is this a new ruleset for all instance or a specific one?

Dimunsis its the new ruleset for poa.st

Dimunsis it's poast making vague ass rules. The tricky language is what pisses me off. They talk about 3dcg and stuff like scat, which most people DO have a problem with, but then they get vague as fuck. "Any content deemed". So essentially whatever they feel like.

Dimunsis Kyonko802 not how instances work, just one for poast. They got tired of... loliposting? lolis? I don't really know go look at grafs account.

Kyonko802 Dimunsis have you even read our rules/tos :illya_smug:

Halo Dimunsis funny this shit is coming from a sothis toe sucker

Halo from what i saw some autist was posting 3dcg loli that looked realistic and he got sick of it

Kyonko802 Dimunsis idk anything about graf, but was caught off guard that he didn't like lolis, idk why I just assumed he did from all the twitter shilling they did. I didn't even know Sothis was a loli tbh.

Halo Dimunsis yep, and it has nothing like this. I was trying to give poast the benefit of the doubt but theyre going to keep adding stuff after this, and locking down content they get personally mad at

Kyonko802 Dimunsis well uh we literally have a line that says I'm free to ban anyone I don't like. Although I guess I understand the disgruntlement since they were going for the whole free speech angle.

Halo Dimunsis "I'm banning you because you're an annoying cunt" is infinitely more understandable than "you're allowed to post loli, but only if you follow these arbitrary rules and someone can still report you and get the post deleted anyways if a handful of tradfags don't like it."

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net To be fair most people have a problem with loli in general.

Kyonko802 well fair enough I guess

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net The rules don't seem arbitrary, I spoke with an admin about the new rules and it boiled down to "don't post realistic 3DCG/actual children, don't post toddlercone, and don't scream about how you want to fuck Loli-chan's 6 year old pussy"

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net we got tired of people pushing the envelope to the point we didn't know the legality of material 99.9% of people would think is vile.

@Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net most people don’t read TOS’s in general

crisp@poa.st why didn't you draw the line at realistic 3dcg in the first place?

@Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net none of us have a problem with anime posting, but we don't want cartoon children being raped posted all over and apparently that's a thing on the fedi and we didn't want that just like 99.9% of people don't like that material.

Melon@anime.website Dimunsis Kyonko802 that is true. well anyway I was referring to the line that says (paraphrased) "I can ban whoever I want, don't complain"

crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Kyonko802 grand, I didn't say there was anything wrong with that. Just wasn't expecting graf to be against it lol.

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net we did these rules were up for most of the time the site existed

crisp@poa.st Halo Dimunsis Kyonko802 >we don't want cartoon children being raped ok but what if the cartoon child consents? :zt_think:

smugumin crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Kyonko802 a valid question, this brings up some thonks :thonk:

crisp@poa.st smugumin Dimunsis Kyonko802 I don't think you can really call a joke response an argument :heh:

crisp@poa.st smugumin Dimunsis Halo I'm sure arguments over the holocaust are much more fascinating. It's the internet, people argue about stupid shit. Just admit you personally want it gone.

@Halo@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net there were people on the site posting images of lolis intermixed with actual pics of children (non sexual) in the next post, and other shit like that. I doubt even your site would allow that.

crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Kyonko802 smugumin wtf. That just sounds like people purposely trying to get it taken down :senko_disgust:

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net they don't want users posting illustrated child pornography on their instance. you don't eve use their instance so I don't see why you care.

Halo crisp@poa.st Dimunsis smugumin sounds like some fucking glowies to me

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net I don't care for those arguments either but people being exposed to what could be considered obscene pornographic material on a site where the intention is not to be filled with that is something that had to be addressed. We literally tell people to go to other instances or encourage creating new ones if they don't like it. TBH with a bigger userbase you have to middle ground some stuff we had to clamp down on 'fedposting' as well.

kino@springbo.cc if you dont know what instances I'm on and not on then don't bring it up as some kinda gotcha

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net So yeah we just can't be 'ultimate fedpost nazi haven' or 'ultimate lolicon den' with a bigger userbase. It just doesn't work.

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net well if you're on their instance too bad guess you can't post drawn child porn on there a real tragedy man fuck my condolences

crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Halo smugumin yeah well don't blame me for screen capping this conversation for when you start slippery sloping this bitch

kino@springbo.cc damn man thanks

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net You're lucky I don't run the site if it were up to me I would just ban all X-rated material because it's not worth the hassle of dealing with people who seem to be obsessed with that.

Kyonko802 - https://varishangout.net/users/Kyonko802 Implying they're mutually exclusive

crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Halo smugumin I honestly don't know what you expected when you made a twitter alt where all the banned users could go when these are the majority of the banned users

@crisp@poa.st and that's kind of a good thing. ideally you shouldn't be dependent upon large, centralized instances to deliver you content. seek smaller, more decentralized, maybe even self-hosted solutions. become ungovernable. @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net

Kyonko802 crisp@poa.st Dimunsis smugumin it was doomed to fedposting from the start :mokou_lying: twitter edgelords... not even once.

@kino@springbo.cc @crisp@poa.st @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net don't bother they'll never get it, they are clout chasers

@kino@springbo.cc @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net Yeah that's def the best solution but a lot of people seem to want to hijack every instance with their specific fetish or whatever I don't get it.

Kyonko802 Halo smugumin "Ultimate Lolicon Den" I like the sound of that :anime_think:

@kino@springbo.cc @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net It's hilarious because a few days ago I was arguing with nazis who want no anime posts and gave the same argument 'go make your own place'. It's absurd.

KuroRose Kyonko802 smugumin one day :tohru_smug:

crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Kyonko802 kino@springbo.cc smugumin Isn't pleroma.nobodyhasthe.biz exactly what they want?

@crisp@poa.st bc usually people with these fetishes are mentally ill to some degree and indulge in a sort of obsessive behavior regarding it. kind of like k-pop fans. regardless, be it wanting to post sociopolitically dissident content or wanting to post child pornography, make your own instances to do it on and nobody can tell you what you can/cannot do therein. become your own moderator/admin. @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net

@Melon@anime.website @Halo@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net they deserve the banhammer

@tengumatingpress@poa.st @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net banning scat is fairly arbitrary. i'd probably mute users who do that because i personally don't want to see it in my face, but like who cares

@Bajax@shitposter.club @Kyonko802@varishangout.net the point is poa.st was literally made for twitter refugees to get away from dumb rules

@Bajax@shitposter.club @Kyonko802@varishangout.net my hypothesis is that graf was over his head when starting an instance and now the reality is catching up to him that it's an annoying responsibility. time will tell if he totally caves though. he did make a wise choice to step down from moderation and only focus on technical administration, though, so it's anyone's guess what will happen in the long term

@Bajax@shitposter.club @Kyonko802@varishangout.net poast just seems like the makings of a circlejerk to me

@Bajax@shitposter.club @Kyonko802@varishangout.net it was successful at getting people to come here from twitter, now people know about fedi and can explore it without being as intimidated

@wowaname@anime.website It felt like a lot of people. @Bajax@shitposter.club @Kyonko802@varishangout.net

@crisp@poa.st @Halo@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net >but we don't want cartoon children being raped posted all over So it's fine if the cartoon child consents then?

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net Yeah, well, those are people you might end up dealing just a heads up

crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Halo smugumin damn it's almost like you're scrambling and underestimated the amount of people management that goes into running a website and are using stupid fags as an excuse to slowly ban shit instead of just banning the stupid fags.

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net treat the disease not the symptoms

crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Halo smugumin whatever excuse you think is good enough

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net "you're just trying to find an EXCUSE to ban pseudo pedophile content (not even lolicon)"

@Ricotta@yggdrasil.social @crisp@poa.st @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net It's not fine spamming our timelines with disgusting shit that we don't consent to be spammed with. It's like spamming with gore, or other disgusting imagery. It hurts the viewer, not necessarily the subject on the image.

crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Halo smugumin You are a complete dumbass if you think I have a problem with you banning 3dcg and you haven't been paying attention to the conversation at all. With you and grafs utter refusal to see how your behavior could be perceived as a red flag for rule slippage bullshit I'm surprised you're not reddit moderators.

@Kyonko802@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net oh so you're okay with people banning certain content? Doesn't that make you a total rule cuck who will fall into rule slippage. Seems like a red flag.

reimu Dimunsis damn now past is getting cucked? holy shit man how many more :kekw: well if it means we'll get more lolicon friends in our instance they i'll meet them with open arms :gurayaya:

crisp@poa.st Okay KiA

rlier23 reimu Dimunsis They're not cucked yet, but if the behavior in this thread is anything to go by it's only a matter of time.

crisp@poa.st Kyonko802 Dimunsis Halo smugumin Now this one is a doozy, that's like 99% of your userbase being gone in a second.

kino@springbo.cc crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Halo Kyonko802 smugumin Ah yes, how "mentally ill" (normal) to have an "obsession" (interest) in one of your hobbies. You're a downie.

Immahnoob crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Halo Kyonko802 smugumin indeed. See thats how it starts. One guy with the "lets ban the lewds because its a hassle" then its on to words being problematic, then certain political views, edgy jokes, and a whole lot of other stuff. Then your just another twitter. Never trust someone that says the words "ban tbe lewds" because they always end up banning everything else and fail to realise there is no end to the drama and shit people will bitch over. Look at twitter and learn. There will ALWAYS be another hassle. Life is a hassle. Deal with it. Managing very minor shit on the internet is peanuts, especially where the individual user can block things themselves or not go to where it is very easily. If that offends you? Then dont be on the internet.

Azur_Fenix Dimunsis Halo Kyonko802 crisp@poa.st smugumin It's :lick_left: seeing the ban happy faggots refusing to admit they're ban happy faggots.

@Azur_Fenix@varishangout.net @Immahnoob@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net If poa.st offends you then don't use it. Oh wait you don't looks like your solved the problem for yourself and are being annoying for no reason.

crisp@poa.st Azur_Fenix Dimunsis Halo Kyonko802 smugumin At least you're tagging everyone so they can have a good laugh, my dude. This is the exact same non-argument used by leftists when they don't understand the concept of criticism. You dun goof'd, you probably don't even understand what people are saying here, take the L and fuck off.

@Immahnoob@varishangout.net @Azur_Fenix@varishangout.net @Dimunsis@varishangout.net @Halo@varishangout.net @Kyonko802@varishangout.net @smugumin@varishangout.net when varish starts having their own userbase problem don't come crying to us for help

crisp@poa.st Azur_Fenix Dimunsis Halo Kyonko802 smugumin Poa.st-kun?! I d-didn't mean it! Please! PLEASE don't go, we need your expertise so we don't end up like uhh... Like you?

Immahnoob crisp@poa.st Dimunsis Halo Kyonko802 smugumin stop. You killing me you bastard im laughing to damn hard :hinata_hyper.gif:

crisp@poa.st Immahnoob Dimunsis Halo Kyonko802 smugumin doubt

Immahnoob Dimunsis Halo Kyonko802 crisp@poa.st smugumin you rosting them bunsz lmao