A lot of non-tech people are really passionate about the idea of "physical media" when the truth is that your physical media is infinitely more likely to be damaged, lost, stop being compatible with your device, need manual patching, etc.. You have to realize the "physical" in physical media is as much of a money grubbing industry as having it be owned by a company, and DVD readers and retro consoles will one day be dusty collectors items that will cost you an arm and a leg for upkeep If you're into tech (real practical tech, not the political industry) you'll understand the only truly infinite and forever is piracy. that's right. Neither corporations nor your beloved physical hands that God made could do anything to make your precious little movies and video games last forever. But you know what does? Torrent sites. Illegal cloud storage so scattered and abstract no force on this earth will ever reach them. Not corpo. Not the law. Not even the natural force of fucking entropy. Do you know how a cloud works? One million computers, all connected to the internet, each host multiple copies of your media. One million or more. An infinite army of disposable clones that can never be contained. Missing bit from computer 9,681 during download? Computers 22,316-933,183 have that bit uploaded for you and you don't even have to think about it. When you "torrent" something, a number of computers equal to the population of a metropolitan city is at your service and ready to put it together for you atom by fucking atom from a total of several quadrillion bits collectively hosted in unreal digital space That's why I'm not into physical media.
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EdBoatConnoisseur
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Fuckers nowadays don't ubderstand that cd rot is still athing that can happen to their precious dvd and blue ray discs, i still remember back in 2007 when my first eminem cd became unusable because of cd rot.
@MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com There is no cloud - it's just other people's computers. Depending on the popularity of the torrent, there can be millions of seeders or none. Videos in proprietary formats or proprietary games are not forever, as eventually you won't be able to get the right proprietary player working or the right proprietary OS working for the games (in a reasonable amount of time or at all). A video encoded in a free format will be playable pretty much forever of course. Most quality movie torrents were dumped from physical media (as that's the only way to get a quality version of the video for most movies) and bittorrent just acts as a backup really.
@EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com Quality optical disks can outlast HDD's and SSD's easily, although a lot of them are junk that just rot, thus for storing certain things, DVD's or bluray disks with plenty of parity via dvdisater can be good.
EdBoatConnoisseur
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Still my chain of trust for important data tp be stored long term is: lto tape > hard drives in a raid array for parity > zip archives on hard drives.
@EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com Don't use zip archives - zip is a pretty terrible format. If you want a long-term archive format that also does compression properly, you want lzip (it can restore a good file automatically from two or more files that are corrupted in different parts and can automatically repair/workaround minor corruption).
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@MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com >A lot of non-tech people are really passionate about the idea of "physical media" when the truth is that your physical media is infinitely more likely to be damaged, lost, stop being compatible with your device, need manual patching, etc. >infinitely more likely Stopped listening to this heavy bait right here.
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@SuperSnekFriend@poa.st @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com "need manual patching" You can play pre steam half life on old PCs you need windows 10 for steam half life
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EdBoatConnoisseur
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@Pawlicker@lab.nyanide.com @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com so, which compressed archive fromats are good and bad? rar is bad cuz proprietary, zip is better than rar, 7z idk.
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@EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com rar is bad if you're fixating on that but it can handle corruption vastly better than 7z. 7z doesn't have a recovery record like rar does. https://menga.net/why-i-still-use-rar-instead-of-7z
https://menga.net/why-i-still-use-rar-instead-of-7z
@Pawlicker@lab.nyanide.com @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st rar is a terrible proprietary format that should not be used. >windtoddler blames windows limitations on 7z. >windtoddler can't handle filesplitting extensions. >toddler can't handle the software not being bloated and not integrating, parity, instead of a parity program for that if wanted. Install GNU/Linux and use lzip and parity software.
@sj_zero@social.fbxl.net pirating the game can remove the DRM in some cases.
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@hor32@hollow.raccoon.quest buy the physical medias then make sure to back them up.
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@EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st topics aside, you have a gay taste in music.
[email protected] as long as you remember to back them up.
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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com video in proprietary format is fine, it's far better than any retarded stollman shit.
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@SuperSnekFriend@poa.st how come this is a bait???
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@MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net also you aren't guaranteed a drm free game with physical media if it's not an old enough release
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@MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com *Refuses to elaborate*
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@MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net and if you do look for old enough games that are gonna be drm free, you're gonna overpay for "limited quantity" "retro games" instead of just buying a fucking game
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@MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net i can already imagine someone selling WON half life for over 9000 dollars cuz it's rare, you're better off making your own physical media distributions of games by buying dvd-rw's and shit
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@lina@eientei.org @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net whoever buys limited edition retro games instead of downloading them from the internet deserve what they did.
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@lina@eientei.org @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net Back when LGR was still cozy he often noted that there were already entire shops selling for hundreds dollars what he could find by thrift hunting. It probably is even worse now.
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@vokainen099@cawfee.club @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net the more oldschool stuff ends up in grifter hands, the higher the prices get, it's a race for getting the goods
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@lina@eientei.org @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net A race mostly lost already, and most collectors end up as grifters when they decide to rid of their stuff
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@vokainen099@cawfee.club @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net yeah because they're like piranhas that smelled blood in the water, they will either snatch up all the goods before actual human beings get their hands on them or they will drive the prices up so high that only they will be able to afford them
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@MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @lina@eientei.org @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net He got increasingly repetitive and soulless. Part of it obvs is the increasing difficulty in finding new content to talk about, but since he dropped his actual job to do YouTube you kinda feel he's less himself
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@lina@eientei.org @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net Imagine when your average customer experience becomes like buying a fumo
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@vokainen099@cawfee.club @lina@eientei.org @sj_zero@social.fbxl.net damn, I kinda understand. Youtubers who went from doing it in their free time to full time usually lost whatever made their stuff fun to watch in the first place.
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@MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com I've never experienced CD rot or cartridges dying due to static with my games but this is still a trvth nvke if not for the fact having a lot of physical media ends up developing the big issue of storage. Also nice butt
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@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com @EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st yeah there's a reason why a guy I know hosting hundreds of iso files uses rar though and it's because of what I just said Why does it not integrate shit that other file formats can do fine? Oh wait you're a professional arguer who wished he could have been as cool as the tapout shirt guys in school
EdBoatConnoisseur
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it is the whole tool composing vs integrated tool, rar was innovative back in the day when it came to integrating all the functions of more traditional utilities (ar/tar, split+cat, gpg/mycrypt), meanwhile other formats embraced the unix style composability, the only format that embraced the idea of an integrated archiving and compression tool WHILE keeping composability in mind has been 7z (as far as i know)
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@EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com also it was huge in Usenet circles for this reason and because of data integrity
EdBoatConnoisseur
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To put an example of composability, say you take a collection of files that is 8GB, you make that collection into an archive with tar and compress with say xz to produce kek_files.tar.xz, then encrypt that with mycrypt to use a password (openssl for an arbitrary keypass or gpg for your gpg key) so u got kek_file.tar.xz.crypt which then would be operated by split to create 512MB chunks, so you'll end up with a list of files like kek_files.tar.xz.crypt.x01 to .x16, you can finally upload those files and whoever downloads them will know they need to cat all 16 pieces into a single .crypt file, unencrypt that with mycrypt and the password, then extract the tar.xz archive as usual, the convenience of that is that every compression format only needs to implement compression, not any of the archiving, splitting and encrypting shenanigans. Of course such chain of operations is described on a naive way and the actual operation would be all the commands piped in this sorta manner: `tar -cfJ /path/to/kek | mcrypt -k "password" | split -d -b 512m - kek_files.tar.xz.crypt.` and that is going to spit out all the 16 files
EdBoatConnoisseur
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Ah yes, data integrity, for verifiying data integrity of every 512MB chunk simply generate an md5 or sha512 hash for every one fo the 16 files, the hashes are then distributed along the password.
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@EdBoatConnoisseur@poa.st @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com it's more "your welfare internet connection broke the file somehow after waiting forever for it to download" and now it's about bitrot fears
EdBoatConnoisseur
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@Pawlicker@lab.nyanide.com @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @MK2boogaloo@lab.nyanide.com nigga, there was a time when i had a "fast" internet connection that was 14KB/s