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@qorg11@society.kalli.st what do I win

@parity@social.xenofem.me a pat on the back

@parity@social.xenofem.me based, what do you think about void linux?

@qorg11@society.kalli.st Never bothered with it. Seems fine, but I have my reasons for sticking with Gentoo on my desktop for now. Not really many downsides when you can -j48. Widespread musl support and stuff is cool as an option, but if you're trying to avoid GNU stuff, Alpine sounds like a better option given the use of busybox and shit. Just the impression that I get tho.

@parity@social.xenofem.me I think gentoo is unironically the worst distro out there for fucks sake, portage is written in python and python is the slowlest and poorly designed programming language, it is lso a fucking mess in the file system, not to mention the versions hell

@qorg11@society.kalli.st say what you will, but it's easy as hell to apply patches to things and have them still be handled by the package management, USE flags are great, and python aside, ports-style ways of handling things are pretty nice. Overlays are also really useful. You don't run into any weird fs shit as a user, although I've heard complaints from people who have to write exceptions to things - this is the result of one of the benefits of the OS though (that being slotted packages). Never encountered anything I'd classify as "versions hell" though in the years I've been using it - once again I'd say slotted packages tend to lead to the antithesis. OpenRC is also my favorite init on Linux at the moment. Also things like -O will get you around 99% of dependency loops. I can tell portage that I know better than it does when it comes to what stuff requires and I wish other things would obey me to that extent - it surprises me that it's hard to fight a lot of package management on binary-based distros when this should be easier if anything due to the nature of not needing to build things. Oneshot is also convenient. Slowly over time I'm also migrating more and more stuff over to being handled by nix package management for various reasons. It's a fun combo.

@parity@social.xenofem.me I just use void because coreboot (seabios payload) decided not to boot freebsd

@qorg11@society.kalli.st uhhh that's odd. Never had issues getting seabios payload coreboot (skulls) to boot OpenBSD on my X230 or FreeBSD on the X230 I corebooted for @WYL@social.xenofem.me - I've even managed to get BSD's working with libreboot which is way more of a bitch in my experience since your bios is literally grub at that point.

@parity@social.xenofem.me It just prompted weird colors and made the installation weird as shit, i'll wait for next libreboot release (which is in a month or so) which will support seabios, and i'll try to boot freebsd on that

@qorg11@society.kalli.st The libreboot/retroboot developments have been interesting. I prompted Leah Rowe to start streaming development of it for a while because I kept asking her questions about it on freenode lol. The fact that she wants to make it capable of utilizing the 3MB of the 8MB X230 chip that isn't technically reserved for Intel ME is pretty sweet, it'll be the one option that allows for a 7MB ROM instead of just 4MB - which you could certainly do some cool stuff with.

@parity@social.xenofem.me Well, i'm a boomer, i'm tryping in a model m right now and i'm using a t400, used to use a 5:4 screen from 2004 but sadly it broke last week, i use pale moon because i hate the modern browsers so i won't use any botneted processor

@qorg11@society.kalli.st It's honestly not a huge compromise. I stuck with a librebooted X200 for a while, but on newer machines like the X220/X230 the useless neutered remainder of ME is only utilized extremely briefly in the boot process and isn't constantly active even when it's off like you see on modern Intel machines. me-cleaner makes it basically a non-issue on sandy/ivy bridge where essentially just a tiny 90kb fraction that allows for booting and nothing else is left.

@parity@social.xenofem.me You know the finn from neuromancer? well, that's me