One argument I’ve always found odd about Christianity is that it’s universalist. In a sense this is true because there is only one God, but this is somehow misconstrued into a claim that all peoples are held equal under God. This isn’t true. It means all peoples fall under his authority. He has exterminated entire civilizations before. He has relegated entire civilizations to slavery. I’m going to operate under the assumption that God understands what a nigger is.

What kind of God invents niggers?!

The type of God who expects his people to understand that they’re animals and treat them as such, not invite them into their nations and treat them as equals. What kind of God creates the pig?

@John_Darksoul@poa.st @SK1ZM@nicecrew.digital Find a Christian sect that doesn't spend billions of dollars on niggers, including inviting them into our house, that isn't, idk, Mormonism or CI. Probably just CI tbh. What you're saying is good and all, but it's butting heads with reality.

>it's butting heads with reality. No it isn't. The bible explicitly tells you all the bad things that will happen if you don't listen.

But a lot of people don't listen, and nothing bad ever happens to them. There is no karma system to our world.

@John_Darksoul@poa.st @SK1ZM@nicecrew.digital @Shadowbroker2135@poa.st @Xenophon@poa.st Doesn't this create a perverse world? Who would want to live long? Do you believe babies go to heaven? Then wouldn't you like to die as a baby? What is the reward for life in this world? Should you not want to die the moment you achieve grace, and can get into heaven?

You should be at peace with life and death and live out God's will on Earth as best as you can after you find salvation

@d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital @SK1ZM@nicecrew.digital @John_Darksoul@poa.st @Shadowbroker2135@poa.st @Xenophon@poa.st Is it not just suffering? Is it not just a chance to fall off the path, even worse? Why wouldn't you want to move to the next world the instant you achieve a state of grace? Family, nation, work, these things are explicitly second to God and Heaven. You can't prefer them over God and Heaven. So why wouldn't you rather go to Heaven as soon as you're able? What's the point of life? It's just a waiting room, and you're in a state of danger as long as you're here. It seems like a very depressive worldview to me. Maybe I would've rather died as a child, if it meant going to heaven.

Life is suffering, and it is joy. It is a chance to fall off the path, which is why we must ensure we remain on it. If Christ lived a completely sinless life and endured all manner of torture, why can we not at least try? Family, nation, and work are second to God but very very rarely will He ever make you choose between the two. It's also not the same kind of choice as "I can live with my woman or I can have the job I want", it's seldom a one or the other situation. Also if you take a secular worldview there are plenty of reasons to die the instant you achieve something -- if you believe life is worthless, you should die immediately. If you believe the point of life is to procreate, you should die after you are "done" procreating. If you believe in the pagan religions, you should die asap in a fight or in an overdose. Yet obviously this is not the case for any of these, why should it be for a Christian life?

@d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital @SK1ZM@nicecrew.digital @John_Darksoul@poa.st @Shadowbroker2135@poa.st @Xenophon@poa.st Because Christianity is explicit. There is one thing you want. One. Heaven. If you hold anything higher than getting into Heaven, you don't go there, and you may not, even if you try. If it's worthless, you don't care. If it's procreation, you should raise you kids. If you're pagan; there's a lot of pagan beliefs, so there's not one answer. But Christianity? When Jesus says he has come not to bring peace but a sword, he's talking about family. He says, if you would choose your family over him, you're not worthy. There is no point to life except Heaven. That's a very blackpilling perspective.

If your family leaves you for your belief in Christ, they were not truly your family On top of this, many verses emphasize the importance of family and marriage

@d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital @SK1ZM@nicecrew.digital @John_Darksoul@poa.st @Shadowbroker2135@poa.st @Xenophon@poa.st Yeah they were. I have secular family. And they all say you choose God and Heaven over everything else. You do not prioritize anything in this life. So what's the point of it? There is none. If you could die as a baby and go to Heaven, is that not better than living your whole life?

It may be, but that's not for me to find out

@d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital @SK1ZM@nicecrew.digital @John_Darksoul@poa.st @Shadowbroker2135@poa.st @Xenophon@poa.st It makes life feel like a prison. Like something you “get through” rather than enjoy and value itself. Like if you could get off the train, you would, but you’re just riding it out until you get to your destination. Being part of the world, and being a real human being, seems more fulfilling. Not trying to rush life, and not holding something over your head. How does one make sense of life if you’re not supposed to be “here?” How do Earth and Heaven tie together? Not just a sorting mechanism. What makes life good instead of a cage?

I felt that way before I came to Christ, and I still feel that way after but substantially less

@d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital @SK1ZM@nicecrew.digital @John_Darksoul@poa.st @Shadowbroker2135@poa.st @Xenophon@poa.st I don’t really hate life. I’m not suicidal or depressed. I don’t wish I were dead, it’s just a question that weighs in my mind whenever I think of heaven, or whenever there’s a debate about who gets into heaven. It contradicts the idea that life is something good. It’s a kind of anti-natalism. You’d have rather died at an age before you could commit sin, because growing up to do something that could get you sent to hell would be worse. But we’re all sinners. If one’s just living in a state of danger that persists until death, logically, you’d rather not get to that point. You’d rather never be in danger. Then why look forward to life at all? Why is it good? But life is good.

@Griffith@radiofreegreenland.org @SK1ZM@nicecrew.digital @d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital @John_Darksoul@poa.st @Shadowbroker2135@poa.st @Xenophon@poa.st From what I've heard this was an issue with early Christians espesially, where they'd want to be martyrs and achieve heaven or whathave.

@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried@clew.lol @SK1ZM@nicecrew.digital @d0c40r0@nicecrew.digital @John_Darksoul@poa.st @Shadowbroker2135@poa.st @Xenophon@poa.st @Griffith@radiofreegreenland.org yes, you've heard it from Varg yeah?