Ahhh, a hard lockup without a kernel panic. Didn't have one in months.

@phnt@fluffytail.org i have these regularly i hate unix

@lucy@netzsphaere.xyz - https://netzsphaere.xyz/users/lucy @phnt@fluffytail.org - https://fluffytail.org/users/phnt Install Gentoo

@tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz

@phnt@fluffytail.org - https://fluffytail.org/users/phnt @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz - https://netzsphaere.xyz/users/lucy Skill issue. If it takes you more than an hour to install Gentoo you should be banned from using a computer.

@tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org this might be an unpopular opinion but, gentoo is bloat

@lucy@netzsphaere.xyz - https://netzsphaere.xyz/users/lucy @phnt@fluffytail.org - https://fluffytail.org/users/phnt If you do it wrong, it will be bloat yes. Don't do it wrong and you'll be fine.

@tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org portage is written in python

@lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl The current state of Linux made me realize that BSD might not be a bad idea if things continue on the same path as it was in the last ~5 years.

@phnt@fluffytail.org @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl i should give dragonfly another try....

@lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org Even something like CRUX beats out Gentoo in terms of minimalism. They're still using a traditional tarball based package manager there iirc.

@lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl I've been pretty happy with OpenBSD and FreeBSD on servers even though my first choice for servers is unironically RHEL/Alma. I didn't try BSDs as my main system for a long time. Mostly because I don't want to reinstall my 6 year old Arch (now Artix) install.

@phnt@fluffytail.org @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz It's not Unix if you aren't paranoid about filth piling up and wanting to reinstall every 6 months.

@phnt@fluffytail.org @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl I've heard openbsd have the kind of security incidents you should be truly ashamed of

@lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org ..no? their main focus is security dude, de raadt takes those sorts of things extremely seriously. hell you know what maybe you know something i don't, name an example

@lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @phnt@fluffytail.org @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl weren't they also the ones who don't understand that if multiple prohects have a security issue they should work together and as such don't get informed about shit anymore?

@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz are you thinking of freebsd? openbsd is ran by friends who have a routine when maintaining it, the project seems well organized

@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @phnt@fluffytail.org Theo's reasoning is mostly "here is a base install that can't do anything at all. This is security. Anything else you install is not our fault therefore it is not a _real_ security issue in OpenBSD"

@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz no, iirc they just pushed fixes for bugs before agreed dates with other devs and as such disclosed the vuln publicly

@tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz yeah, that's what i remember their top notch security being

@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz the system is fully functional out of the gate, obviously fucking around with configurations to purposefully weaken defenses in stuff like openssh is your fault. the openbsd team also can't really be held responsible for what you do inside other programs

@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz source it

@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz https://fluffytail.org/notice/AuJziYbWnYM9VTNCQC

@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz yeah, but other projects try to minimize the impact of vulnerabilites in software running on top like with selinux while openbsd just says it's safe because the base install is safe

@phnt@fluffytail.org @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz major blunder indeed. but this was also nearly 10 years ago and that's more than enough time to learn from what happened

@tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz The base install of "Open"BSD contains quite a lot of proprietary software, thus it appears that there is only an illusion of security, as well nobody actually uses it (even its own developers don't use macos instead and only ever use it in a VM), therefore nobody finds the security vulnerabilities.

@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @phnt@fluffytail.org @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz >forgets about pledge and unveil

@Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz

@phnt@fluffytail.org @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl @Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @snacks@netzsphaere.xyz amazing, do you have just the pic without the post?

@grips@cawfee.club That post sadly never federated it seems cc @bara@clubcyberia.co

@phnt@fluffytail.org @bara@clubcyberia.co >This API requires an authenticated user This shit makes my blood boil.

@nyanide@lab.nyanide.com @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz @phnt@fluffytail.org @tyil@fedi.tyil.nl Crux mentioned.

@phnt@fluffytail.org @grips@cawfee.club

the sequels to the ol classic are getting increasingly unhinged

@Paultron@poa.st @grips@cawfee.club @bara@clubcyberia.co @phnt@fluffytail.org is that the Sierra logo getting destroyed in the back?